[OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/ < https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/
< https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :( And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point. But hey, maybe I'll be dead (not just inside) so I won't care ;)
See below. On 2020-06-28 00:00, Mirimir wrote:
And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point.
The term "the Jackpot" of course comes from William Gibson's 2014 science fiction novel The Peripheral. There's nowadays a subreddit r/collapse where redditors discuss, well, "the collapse", that being their term. I've been wondering for a while - what other terms, from science fiction or Internet subcultures or elsewhere - are there for this current thing humanity is experiencing? Besides "the Jackpot" and "the collapse", can anyone list any additional widely or significantly used ones? (Not to mention, just, an anthropogenic mass extinction event. Cue reactionaries on this list freaking out because they are primed to protect dolla dolla bill from evidence of global warming etc.) Doug
On 06/27/2020 05:41 PM, Douglas Lucas wrote:
See below.
On 2020-06-28 00:00, Mirimir wrote:
And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown. And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization. AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point.
The term "the Jackpot" of course comes from William Gibson's 2014 science fiction novel The Peripheral.
Yeah, I should have mentioned that. But hey, every cpunk knows that, no?
There's nowadays a subreddit r/collapse where redditors discuss, well, "the collapse", that being their term.
I've been wondering for a while - what other terms, from science fiction or Internet subcultures or elsewhere - are there for this current thing humanity is experiencing? Besides "the Jackpot" and "the collapse", can anyone list any additional widely or significantly used ones?
Some sort of collapse is a standard start for dystopian fiction. Decades ago, it was typically global nuclear war. However, I do recall some SF where it was toxic chemical pollution. Now it's often global climate change. That's a huge piece of Gibson 's Jackpot. Along with pandemics :\ It's also a key aspect of the back story in Watts' _Blindsight_ and _Echopraxia_. But I don't recall that Watts has a name for it.
(Not to mention, just, an anthropogenic mass extinction event. Cue reactionaries on this list freaking out because they are primed to protect dolla dolla bill from evidence of global warming etc.)
Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;)
Doug
See below. On 2020-06-28 02:23, Mirimir wrote:
Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;)
There was a sign at a grocery store here in Seattle this evening, something like: "Cash payments require exact change due to nationwide coin shortage." And in the greater Seattle area, an electronic sign along the road last week, I assume from an official entity, flashing the message: "July 4th is cancelled." I should take pics of both... Doug
See below. On 2020-06-28 02:48, Douglas Lucas wrote:
See below.
On 2020-06-28 02:23, Mirimir wrote:
Well, the US dollar may soon be toast. Maybe down 20%-30% by 2021, and might be replaced by a gold-backed greenback within a few years (if the US can find enough gold, anyway). And/or cryptocurrencies ;)
There was a sign at a grocery store here in Seattle this evening, something like: "Cash payments require exact change due to nationwide coin shortage." And in the greater Seattle area, an electronic sign along the road last week, I assume from an official entity, flashing the message: "July 4th is cancelled." I should take pics of both...
To be precise, it was "Cash payments *may require
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 21:00 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
But hey, maybe I'll be dead (not just inside) so I won't care ;)
No, you won't die. Sorry, people like us have no much luck in this specific point. Unfortunately, we will live enough for meeting each other in person. Really frustrating, tsc tsc... ;) Patience, please. I cannot die now, my lovely Mirimir. Sincerely sorry. I promised to keep myself alive, sane, and enoughly healthy for being an efficient panic button to some people for some time. Absolutely boring and exhaustive, not charming at all, but necessary in the moment. They are more useful to the world than me, la la la... They always are, aff... And two of them do hate me! (Yep! Grumpy cat feelings! Think I need sugar or my bad mood will kill people soon. Don't worry, my stress is making me lose weight in a scary way! ;) Ah, before I forget asking it again, do you want to try a conspiracy using a completely public list just for fun? No much free time and patience for it now, but could be an interesting experience in the future... puuurrrr... Ah! Not using this cute list and our names in the first experience, just to keep everyone safe. I do love you. Keep yourself pretty safe too, please! <3
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/
< https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :(
'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist 'elites'.
And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown.
that would be great
And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization.
and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'.
AKA the Jackpot. Or at least, over the inflection point.
But hey, maybe I'll be dead (not just inside) so I won't care ;)
On 06/27/2020 07:34 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/
< https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :(
'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist 'elites'.
OK, so what do you say is killing all those people? And are you literally claiming that the virus doesn't exist, and that there's a global conspiracy behind it all?
And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial meltdown.
that would be great
I don't know that I'd go that far. I do see the ecological benefit, of course. And my Bitcoin and precious metals (physical) would be worth more, relative to stuff. But then, maybe there'd be food shortages, no electricity, and so on. Which would suck.
And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization.
and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'.
Yeah, I'd like to see that, in maybe 10-15 years. Because I'd be almost dead then, and the "I told you so" rush would be sweet. But it would suck if it happens before I'm ready to die. <snip>
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 19:41:45 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 07:34 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/
< https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :(
'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist 'elites'.
OK, so what do you say is killing all those people?
I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda.
and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'.
Yeah, I'd like to see that, in maybe 10-15 years. Because I'd be almost dead then, and the "I told you so" rush would be sweet. But it would suck if it happens before I'm ready to die.
haha...
On 06/27/2020 09:38 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 19:41:45 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 07:34 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:00:19 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 06/27/2020 04:29 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Curious and strangely uncomfortable... :-/
< https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/verizon-teases-forthcoming-dss-laun...
COVID killing people, 5G, and other dreams since... this f* year, ouch! (>_<)*
Yeah, it's been a fucking horrible year, so far :(
'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist 'elites'.
OK, so what do you say is killing all those people?
I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda.
Sure, COVID-19 is mainly killing older people. Looking at various online sources, almost half of fatalities were over 75. About 25% were 65-74, and about 22% were 45-64. Only about 5% were under 45. And yes, for all age groups, most of the fatalities had underlying health conditions. But most of those people arguably died sooner that they would have, but for COVID-19. Maybe not a lot sooner, I admit. But in the most heavily affected areas, total death rates _did_ increase. Anyway, I do get the argument that it would have made more sense, overall, to just let everyone get infected, and let all the old and infirm just die. That would arguably have avoided the huge economic shitstorm that we'll be facing for the rest of the decade. And damn, if you welcome the shitstorm, why complain so loudly about the proximate cause? Isn't it all for the lulz?
and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'.
Yeah, I'd like to see that, in maybe 10-15 years. Because I'd be almost dead then, and the "I told you so" rush would be sweet. But it would suck if it happens before I'm ready to die.
haha...
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:27:55 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda.
Sure, COVID-19 is mainly killing older people. Looking at various online sources, almost half of fatalities were over 75.
roughly half of the fatalities are people over the 'average life expectancy'. They are already dead, statistically speaking.
About 25% were 65-74, and about 22% were 45-64. Only about 5% were under 45. And yes, for all age groups, most of the fatalities had underlying health conditions.
so the current PSYOP is just the flu rebranded. And not even the flu as the direct cause but just a factor. "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths"
But most of those people arguably died sooner that they would have, but for COVID-19. Maybe not a lot sooner, I admit. But in the most heavily affected areas, total death rates _did_ increase.
compared to what? And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There are ups and downs.
Anyway, I do get the argument that it would have made more sense, overall, to just let everyone get infected,
that's not my point. My point is that this is a ridiculous charade.
and let all the old and infirm just die.
exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is? the 'humanitarian' retards supposedly want to stop death - though of course only death caused by their imaginary threat. Nobody is talking about, say, banning cars, which certainly would save a lot of lifes and limbs. Or banning war? War is peace!
That would arguably have avoided the huge economic shitstorm that we'll be facing for the rest of the decade.
And damn, if you welcome the shitstorm, why complain so loudly about the proximate cause? Isn't it all for the lulz?
well, one of the good consequences is that children weren't mind raped in schools for a few months. As to the a possible economic shitstorm, I don't think it will happen. The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls over...everything. Hey, didn't you see the Emperor of the Cyphperpunks, Sir Jim Bell advocating for more fascist surveillance?
On 06/27/2020 11:08 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:27:55 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I guess you didn't even bother looking at the age of the people allegedly killed by the 'virus'? So, do your homework, read wikimierda.
Sure, COVID-19 is mainly killing older people. Looking at various online sources, almost half of fatalities were over 75.
roughly half of the fatalities are people over the 'average life expectancy'. They are already dead, statistically speaking.
About 25% were 65-74, and about 22% were 45-64. Only about 5% were under 45. And yes, for all age groups, most of the fatalities had underlying health conditions.
so the current PSYOP is just the flu rebranded. And not even the flu as the direct cause but just a factor.
Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where vaccines won't work. If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time.
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza Influenza spreads around the world in yearly outbreaks, resulting in about three to five million cases of severe illness and about 290,000 to 650,000 deaths"
It's too early to compare.
But most of those people arguably died sooner that they would have, but for COVID-19. Maybe not a lot sooner, I admit. But in the most heavily affected areas, total death rates _did_ increase.
compared to what?
Compared to historical averages.
And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There are ups and downs.
I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19 is just a natural response to human overpopulation. And there's no reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades.
Anyway, I do get the argument that it would have made more sense, overall, to just let everyone get infected,
that's not my point. My point is that this is a ridiculous charade.
I do tend to agree with that.
and let all the old and infirm just die.
exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is?
Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them.
the 'humanitarian' retards supposedly want to stop death - though of course only death caused by their imaginary threat. Nobody is talking about, say, banning cars, which certainly would save a lot of lifes and limbs. Or banning war? War is peace!
Truth.
That would arguably have avoided the huge economic shitstorm that we'll be facing for the rest of the decade.
And damn, if you welcome the shitstorm, why complain so loudly about the proximate cause? Isn't it all for the lulz?
well, one of the good consequences is that children weren't mind raped in schools for a few months. As to the a possible economic shitstorm, I don't think it will happen.
Time will tell.
The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls over...everything.
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than conspiracy, but you could be right.
Hey, didn't you see the Emperor of the Cyphperpunks, Sir Jim Bell advocating for more fascist surveillance?
No comment.
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:31:32 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where vaccines won't work.
That's just...fear mongering propaganda =) - X 'may' be Y...Pigs 'may' fly if you throw them off a rooftop, etc.
If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time.
Next year two things may happen. Either the flu will be again misrepresented as some horrible pest that 'could' exterminate the human race...or it won't, and the flu PSYOP will be replaced by some New And Improved PSYOP.
And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There are ups and downs.
I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19 is just a natural response to human overpopulation.
That's assuming that humans are a monoculture which I don't think they are, although no doubt govcorp is working hard on making everbody a mass produced robot. But again you're assuming that the flu is some kind of terrible pest although the plain facts show that's not the case. As to overpopulation, that's more a matter of opinion than fact. I don't mean to defend the current consumerist 'culture' but I don't think it's necessarily close to breaking point yet (sadly).
And there's no reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades.
...yeah the subhuman chinese eat raw bats =)
exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is?
Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them.
You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine is obviously NOT what this is about.
The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls over...everything.
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than conspiracy, but you could be right.
Most of the conspiracy I see here is that it's possible for govcorp to tell a blatant lie and the serfs just go along with it. Technofascism and 'science' worship come into play because the typical product of public 'education' who believes in the 'progress' of technology also believes whatever the 'scientists' say. So it's quite easy for govcorp to pretend that some strain of the flu is the New Biological Apocalypsis. And yet... "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate."
On 06/28/2020 01:06 AM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:31:32 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where vaccines won't work.
That's just...fear mongering propaganda =) - X 'may' be Y...Pigs 'may' fly if you throw them off a rooftop, etc.
There's ~zero doubt that pigs can't fly. But the length of immunity after recovery from COVID-19 is clearly an open question. If for no other reason than having just several months of data. And we won't likely have a useful answer until 2022.
If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time.
Next year two things may happen. Either the flu will be again misrepresented as some horrible pest that 'could' exterminate the human race...or it won't, and the flu PSYOP will be replaced by some New And Improved PSYOP.
It's not a type of influenza. The common cold is generally caused coronaviruses and rhinoviruses. So if anything, COVID-19 is basically a bad cold ;)
And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There are ups and downs.
I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19 is just a natural response to human overpopulation.
That's assuming that humans are a monoculture which I don't think they are,
From the perspective of a virus, they pretty much are. However, it's likely that some populations are more susceptible than others, so it's not as extreme as bananas (clones) or even typical agricultural crops.
although no doubt govcorp is working hard on making everbody a mass produced robot.
Yeah, no doubt.
But again you're assuming that the flu is some kind of terrible pest although the plain facts show that's not the case. As to overpopulation, that's more a matter of opinion than fact. I don't mean to defend the current consumerist 'culture' but I don't think it's necessarily close to breaking point yet (sadly).
Again, it's not influenza. And about overpopulation, many do think that we're close to the breaking point. But whatever, it's pointless to argue about it on this list.
And there's no reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades.
...yeah the subhuman chinese eat raw bats =)
Indeed, that's one aspect. SARS and COVID-19 came from Chinese eating bats. Ebola came from Africans eating bushmeat: bats (ebola) and nonhuman primates (HIV). MERS came from camels in Saudi Arabia, and perhaps originally from bats. So yeah, gotta watch out for bats.
exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is?
Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them.
You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine is obviously NOT what this is about.
I also isolate myself from the cesspool of popular culture :)
The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls over...everything.
It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than conspiracy, but you could be right.
Most of the conspiracy I see here is that it's possible for govcorp to tell a blatant lie and the serfs just go along with it.
Yes, sadly enough.
Technofascism and 'science' worship come into play because the typical product of public 'education' who believes in the 'progress' of technology also believes whatever the 'scientists' say. So it's quite easy for govcorp to pretend that some strain of the flu is the New Biological Apocalypsis. And yet...
I am a hardcore materialist, and I do consider the scientific method to be the best approach for understanding stuff. I'd rather be a god than worship one (or a goddess). So variation and selection are my deities.
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate."
That's for sure a serious issue. But that's about physicians, and they are not at all scientists. They're more like witch doctors.
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:51:07 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
There's ~zero doubt that pigs can't fly. But the length of immunity after recovery from COVID-19 is clearly an open question.
Still, your speculation is fear mongering propaganda. Also, you keep taking for granted that this 'covid' thing is real.
It's not a type of influenza. The common cold is generally caused coronaviruses and rhinoviruses. So if anything, COVID-19 is basically a bad cold ;)
influenza, common cold, same thing. The distinction is literally academic.
That's assuming that humans are a monoculture which I don't think they are,
From the perspective of a virus, they pretty much are.
A 'monoculture' is some crop that's mostly grown in some area. The result of the glorious division of labor...or something. However, nobody is growing humans - humans are not cloned - etc. So you keep painting an apocalyptic picture with little basis in reality. Now, it's certainly possible that a big population of some organism that tries to live beyond its means will get cut back to size by nature, but there's exactly 0 (zero) evidence that the common cold is doing that.
However, it's likely that some populations are more susceptible than others, so it's not as extreme as bananas (clones) or even typical agricultural crops.
yeah the asians are most susceptible. Oh, wait! That was YET ANOTHER bullshit claim, but it turns out that flu hysteria in places like china, korea or japan was over months ago or has a pretty low number of cases - or both.
But again you're assuming that the flu is some kind of terrible pest although the plain facts show that's not the case. As to overpopulation, that's more a matter of opinion than fact. I don't mean to defend the current consumerist 'culture' but I don't think it's necessarily close to breaking point yet (sadly).
Again, it's not influenza.
It is. It's called the wu-flu.
And about overpopulation, many do think that we're close to the breaking point. But whatever, it's pointless to argue about it on this list.
Anything can be argued on this list =) The overpopulation thing is more apocalyptic bullshit. Did I say 'apocalyptic' twice? Yeah, 'the end of the world' is a common meme in pseudo cultures attacked by the jew-kristian virus - like the western cesspool.
And there's no reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades.
...yeah the subhuman chinese eat raw bats =)
Indeed, that's one aspect. SARS and COVID-19 came from Chinese eating bats.
Yeah. So now you've lowered yourself to parroting white supremacist garbage. Congrats =)
You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine is obviously NOT what this is about.
I also isolate myself from the cesspool of popular culture :)
Well...There seems to be some leaks in your isolation because everything you're saying about 'covid' is propaganda - the backbone of popular 'culture' =)
Technofascism and 'science' worship come into play because the typical product of public 'education' who believes in the 'progress' of technology also believes whatever the 'scientists' say. So it's quite easy for govcorp to pretend that some strain of the flu is the New Biological Apocalypsis. And yet...
I am a hardcore materialist, and I do consider the scientific method to be the best approach for understanding stuff.
Right. Reductionistic materialism doesn't explain anything. It's especially pathetic at 'explaining' politics and moral philosophy. But anyway, if you were actually taking a 'scientific' approach to this you would be looking at the plain facts. Nobody is dying from any 'new terrible disease' and more than two fucking thirds of the alleged victims are older than 80!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_in_Germany#By_age_and_gender
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate."
That's for sure a serious issue. But that's about physicians, and they are not at all scientists. They're more like witch doctors.
Exactly. But according to 'official science' they are 'scientists' AND this PSYOP bullshit is based on 'medical' 'facts'. FURTHEMORE, the medical mafia are the ones who fill lying 'death certificates' saying that people died of the flu.
On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, 01:09 Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:51:07 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
There's ~zero doubt that pigs can't fly. But the length of immunity after recovery from COVID-19 is clearly an open question.
Still, your speculation is fear mongering propaganda. Also, you keep taking for granted that this 'covid' thing is real.
It's pretty real, I can swear it for my life, J. I saw it in person. I smelled it. I touched it. I hugged it. I kissed it. And said good bye in the end. Hundreds of times in the last months. Literally. I got more 2 deaths today - number 199 and 200 - and decided it was enough. I am feeling dead. Yep, my body's answer to viruses can be very fun. This one, for example, will never kill me. Sorry, already tasted stronger flavours. Not a pleasent experience, of course. My blood was and is being used in medical researches and it is a bit annoying. Gave researches some samples, gave a friend a donation - cancer, 500 ml - and, well, already did it before two weeks ago, donating blood to a public hospital. So, I seem dead too. Pale and cold. Well, there are dozens, and dozens, and more dozens of lovely cute survivors too. But they are wasted like me. Now, I ask apologies to the whole list. I did a lot of stupid noise here in the last days because I am a stupid OT person with an stupid OT life. And because I wanted desperately to annoy 2 (or more, don't know, whatever) stalkers. Uncomfortable sensation, I needed help, sorry. One of them is deeply _out_ my life, so I am less stressed and will try to sleep. And eating _decent_ choco because I need to celebrate my f* luck. Sh*t, it seems so wrong and immoral doing it today, but... well, the future can be cancelled still today... or tomorrow... or never... who can know? So, take care and try to be happy, boys and girls. And after 7 July, I absolutely recommend the "Plague Songs" album. It's indecent, immoral, great, amazing fun. Musical registers of our little end of the world... Not definitive, don't worry Mirimir. We will have electricity, I swear. But - coff, coff! - no 5G, hahaha! ;)
PS: - Just in case, I was not using stupid masks. They were feeling bad and, in some way, watching my face was comfortable to most of them, specially the children. They always think I am funny. I gave up Criminology area when much younger, before ending the Law degree, because of a kid's corpse. It was fucking brutal watching it. His father should protect and love him, not kill him. It was the second dead child of my life and definitely it was enough, but had to watch more children corpses in the last months. And lots and lots of people older and younger than me. And, I ask pardon, but now I am completely sure that my life is a disgraceful shit, but I do love it. I do love being alive. It's always fucking interesting and my memories are part of who I am now. My memories, fears, and traums can be scary or sad, but are important part of my life. So I can live with them pretty well, I think. Or I die trying it. ;) (But some problems are sooo fucking boring... Me too, I know. Sorry, bad mood. Need more sugar.)
And, I ask pardon, but now I am completely sure that my life is a disgraceful shit, but I do love it. I do love being alive. It's always fucking interesting and my memories are part of who I am now. My memories, fears, and traums can be scary or sad, but are important part of my life. So I can live with them pretty well, I think. Or I die trying it. ;)
You sound cool. Your picture doesn't show a disgraceful person.
(But some problems are sooo fucking boring... Me too, I know. Sorry, bad mood. Need more sugar.)
Now, now, what's your problem with yourself? Mark
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 00:19 \0xDynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
You sound cool. Your picture doesn't show a disgraceful person
Oh, sorry, my fault! Never remember to use filters or photo programs to make me look me desperately miserable. This is the reason I like this pic. It's just me and a Totoro hat.
(But some problems are sooo fucking boring... Me too, I know. Sorry, bad mood. Need more sugar.)
Now, now, what's your problem with yourself?
Devastating physical pain and considerable emotional pain too. It hurts, it is frustrating when, after years trying to discover what is happening with your body, you finally receive an answer, and do need to fight against the State and the private health plan you contracted a decade ago and is f* expensive. Just for economic reference, I could use this money for visiting you once a month before all the COVID-19 stuff. At least, I do love my lawyer. When I look to the mirror, she still smiles to me, even working for free. I am an egocentric bastard and I still remember how life is sweet when you don't feel any pain. First, I will get the freedom back for me. After it, without pain, I will try to get the same sweet sensation for other people. Nobody deserves to feel pain and/or fear, darling. In the moment, I am not a so good writer like I used to be and it's pretty scary for me. In the last three months, my doctor and I tried several medicines for avoiding the extreme levels of pain, but the chemicals make my writing so... hmm... meh! :-/ And there are stupid mistakes, specially in French, because I learn a language using its sounds first, not its writing... Or, at least, try to do it. Sorry, my fault, I know I am a disaster with all languages, in special German Sauerkraut recipes! My last try exploded in the kitchen a few days ago and my nose is still screaming, full of horror... :-/ (Do you remember my past Sauerkraut disasters, Mirimir? Tor-Talk list before being kickbanned, for example, hahahaha!!) So, I prefer the pain and a, more or less, decent writing in Brazilian Portuguese, my native language, even being slower. My English always stinks, with or without pain, so no considerable problem. I just need time and patience for learning a bit more about Medicine. Disinfected tender kisses and hugs. Take care, dear all! <3 Ceci
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On 07/11/2020 02:08 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020, 00:19 \0xDynamite <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
You sound cool. Your picture doesn't show a disgraceful person
Oh, sorry, my fault! Never remember to use filters or photo programs to make me look me desperately miserable. This is the reason I like this pic. It's just me and a Totoro hat.
Yes, it's a sweet photo :)
(But some problems are sooo fucking boring... Me too, I know. Sorry, bad mood. Need more sugar.)
Now, now, what's your problem with yourself?
Devastating physical pain and considerable emotional pain too. It hurts, it is frustrating when, after years trying to discover what is happening with your body, you finally receive an answer, and do need to fight against the State and the private health plan you contracted a decade ago and is f* expensive. Just for economic reference, I could use this money for visiting you once a month before all the COVID-19 stuff.
Yeah, injuries often suck. But they're also useful feedback. And in a way, who we are is the sum of of our scars.
At least, I do love my lawyer. When I look to the mirror, she still smiles to me, even working for free. I am an egocentric bastard and I still remember how life is sweet when you don't feel any pain. First, I will get the freedom back for me. After it, without pain, I will try to get the same sweet sensation for other people. Nobody deserves to feel pain and/or fear, darling.
I'm glad that you're feeling optimistic Ceci :)
In the moment, I am not a so good writer like I used to be and it's pretty scary for me. In the last three months, my doctor and I tried several medicines for avoiding the extreme levels of pain, but the chemicals make my writing so... hmm... meh! :-/
I hope that gabapentin isn't one of them. It's often used for neuropathic pain. But most of the clinical trial data is bullshit. Pfizer bribed physicians to produce positive results. It's bad shit, with lots of nasty side effects. Basically it makes you crazy: tired, confused, aggressive, and suicidal. But don't just stop. That's also very dangerous :(
And there are stupid mistakes, specially in French, because I learn a language using its sounds first, not its writing... Or, at least, try to do it. Sorry, my fault, I know I am a disaster with all languages, in special German Sauerkraut recipes! My last try exploded in the kitchen a few days ago and my nose is still screaming, full of horror... :-/
(Do you remember my past Sauerkraut disasters, Mirimir? Tor-Talk list before being kickbanned, for example, hahahaha!!)
Yeah, fermentation in sealed containers can be too exciting.
So, I prefer the pain and a, more or less, decent writing in Brazilian Portuguese, my native language, even being slower. My English always stinks, with or without pain, so no considerable problem.
Your English is fine :) And it'd be a hassle to read Portuguese.
I just need time and patience for learning a bit more about Medicine.
Medical systems and pharmaceutical firms need better legal oversight, for sure. As you know from experience.
Disinfected tender kisses and hugs. Take care, dear all! <3
Ceci
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"Don't let anyone rob you of your imagination, your creativity, or your curiosity. It's your place in the world; it's your life. Go on and do all you can with it, and make it the life you want to live." - Mae Jemison
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020, 19:35 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/11/2020 02:08 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Yeah, injuries often suck. But they're also useful feedback. And in a way, who we are is the sum of of our scars.
Yes, I learned to love all my scars, darling. All of them have a history, and are important part of my past, of my life. I am still alive, and promise I will keep myself alive for complete, being exactly who I am, Mirimir. I'm glad that you're feeling optimistic Ceci :)
When I don't want to die, living is fascinating, my love. <3 It's bad shit, with lots of nasty side effects. Basically it makes you
crazy: tired, confused, aggressive, and suicidal. But don't just stop. That's also very dangerous :(
Are we talking about Z. H. messages, my love? Oh, please, stop. It's disgusting. Several brain damages. Don't worry, sweetie. You do need to consider two important facts that I will tell you in private. Believe me, you do absolutely not need to worry about my personal security in the moment. I am pretty healthy, pretty sane, and pretty pretty, hahaha!! ;D (I am trying to make you laugh. Please, smile and/or laugh and relax!) Hey, do you have news about Razer? I do love him and his bad mood... And my lovely kitten is disappeared too. I am missing you, grarpamp. Meow, meow... I confess I love you publicly. Come back, please. Yeah, fermentation in sealed containers can be too exciting.
There are little pieces of glass shining everywhere... And fermented cabbage stinking more than my English, la la la... ;D Medical systems and pharmaceutical firms need better legal oversight,
for sure. As you know from experience.
Unfortunately, I need to tell you disgusting things in private. :-/ Oh, my parents do still not know about my next steps because... well, I do love them more than my life, but I do absolutely not need people panicking now. I do need peace and concentration for feeling pain, studying, reading, writing, being a ghost writer again for paying accounts, whatever... ;) And my mom thinks I can read these Japan's History Books easily because they are 'Manga for Kids', available for free until 31, August... They are written in Japanese only, Mirimir. :P <https://kids-km3.shogakukan.co.jp> Pretty cute and interesting, but she can't understand I don't have free time enough now for a deep learning until the end of August, uff... First of all, I need to learn Japanese again, only after learning more about strange surgeries, hahaha!! ;D I do love you, Mirimir. Keep yourself alive, please. I do need time and "painkillers" that kill only the pain, not me, please. <3
On 07/11/2020 07:24 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Sat, Jul 11, 2020, 19:35 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/11/2020 02:08 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
Yeah, injuries often suck. But they're also useful feedback. And in a way, who we are is the sum of of our scars.
Yes, I learned to love all my scars, darling. All of them have a history, and are important part of my past, of my life. I am still alive, and promise I will keep myself alive for complete, being exactly who I am, Mirimir.
:)
I'm glad that you're feeling optimistic Ceci :)
When I don't want to die, living is fascinating, my love. <3
That's how it works for me too.
It's bad shit, with lots of nasty side effects. Basically it makes you crazy: tired, confused, aggressive, and suicidal. But don't just stop. That's also very dangerous :(
Are we talking about Z. H. messages, my love? Oh, please, stop. It's disgusting. Several brain damages.
No, I was just offering unsolicited advice :)
Don't worry, sweetie. You do need to consider two important facts that I will tell you in private. Believe me, you do absolutely not need to worry about my personal security in the moment. I am pretty healthy, pretty sane, and pretty pretty, hahaha!! ;D
(I am trying to make you laugh. Please, smile and/or laugh and relax!)
Thanks :)
Hey, do you have news about Razer? I do love him and his bad mood... And my lovely kitten is disappeared too. I am missing you, grarpamp. Meow, meow... I confess I love you publicly. Come back, please.
Nope. Or at least, I'm not sure. I don't have any news from anyone using that handle. But it's hard to tell who's who sometimes.
Yeah, fermentation in sealed containers can be too exciting.
There are little pieces of glass shining everywhere... And fermented cabbage stinking more than my English, la la la... ;D
Ouch. Glass splinters are not fun.
Medical systems and pharmaceutical firms need better legal oversight, for sure. As you know from experience.
Unfortunately, I need to tell you disgusting things in private. :-/
OK :)
Oh, my parents do still not know about my next steps because... well, I do love them more than my life, but I do absolutely not need people panicking now. I do need peace and concentration for feeling pain, studying, reading, writing, being a ghost writer again for paying accounts, whatever... ;)
Yes, parents must be protected.
And my mom thinks I can read these Japan's History Books easily because they are 'Manga for Kids', available for free until 31, August... They are written in Japanese only, Mirimir. :P
Cute pictures ;)
Pretty cute and interesting, but she can't understand I don't have free time enough now for a deep learning until the end of August, uff... First of all, I need to learn Japanese again, only after learning more about strange surgeries, hahaha!! ;D
I don't trust surgeons.
I do love you, Mirimir. Keep yourself alive, please. I do need time and "painkillers" that kill only the pain, not me, please. <3
<3
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 00:29 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I don't trust surgeons.
My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust surgeons, please? In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for me. Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not? Some specifically medical area? I trust only a few surgeons. And I would give my life for only one of them because he saved me a few months ago. Not in a surgery, he explained me very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of processing informations rationally... wow... The human body and its anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt like mine...
On 07/27/2020 04:24 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020, 00:29 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I don't trust surgeons.
My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust surgeons, please?
Because, for the most part, what they know is anatomy and surgery, and so they tend to see surgery as the best option. They're also more full of themselves than other doctors. The history of spinal surgery, in particular, is replete with all sorts of disastrous operations. See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=malpractice+spinal+surgery&t=ffnt&ia=web for examples.
In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for me.
Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not? Some specifically medical area?
I generally don't trust doctors. In the US anyway, they're generally driven too much by greed for money and status. And far too manipulated by the pharmaceutical and device industries. But there are many who are truly caring and competent, of course.
I trust only a few surgeons. And I would give my life for only one of them because he saved me a few months ago. Not in a surgery, he explained me very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of processing informations rationally... wow... The human body and its anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt like mine...
OK, so _he_ sounds like a _good_ surgeon :) And yes, we are very complicated machines. But fortunately, we're also amazingly good at self-repairing. Although it can take a _long_ time :( Be well <3
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 22:23 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/27/2020 04:24 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust surgeons, please?
Because, for the most part, what they know is anatomy and surgery, and so they tend to see surgery as the best option. They're also more full of themselves than other doctors.
The history of spinal surgery, in particular, is replete with all sorts of disastrous operations. See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=malpractice+spinal+surgery&t=ffnt&ia=web for examples.
Oh, the most disastrous operations in the history of spinal surgery... W-O-W, loved it! All I wanted to see before my pretty complex spinal surgery, sweetie! <3 Hahahahaha!!! ;D Mirimir, I do love you. You and my doctor always think I am a very rational creature, able to analyze creepy situations with cold blood, hahahaha!!! Nobody else in this world would believe it, hahahahaha!!! ;D
In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for
me.
Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not? Some specifically medical area?
I generally don't trust doctors. In the US anyway, they're generally driven too much by greed for money and status. And far too manipulated by the pharmaceutical and device industries. But there are many who are truly caring and competent, of course.
I do care a lot about a neurosurgeon - he used to be one of my best friends before his marriage - and the innocent surgeon who thinks I am a rational person. Sweet boy. My best friend for years and years was an addicted doctor, Mirimir. That's the reason why I learned a bit about chemicals, my love. He committed suicide and my world became stranger than ever for a considerable time. You know I do hate lies and labels, but I was "his sweet high school girlfriend" in public. In real private life, he was gay and had more boyfriends than me and all my friends together. But you know, he was a successful doctor and needed a perfect image: - white, male, hetero... He was buried using an Armani suit and red roses, our favorite flowers. I still love him and miss this fucking bitch a lot.
I trust only a few surgeons. And I would give my life for only one of them
because he saved me a few months ago. Not in a surgery, he explained me very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of processing informations rationally... wow... The human body and its anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt like mine...
OK, so _he_ sounds like a _good_ surgeon :)
Hahahaha!!! _He_ is a fucking _amazing_ surgeon!!! I made some specific researches about him. :D Don't feel jealous, my love. I think _he_ has the _same_ preferences than me in several areas. Well, never asked about it. Sorry, he is the guy who will put his hands in my spine, not necessarily in my back. ;) (There will be a scar, but he will try to preserve my tattoo.)
He is a spinal surgeon, darling. And I didn't tell my parents I can die or become paraplegic after the last surgery. I just want to be a butterfly again and get my freedom back. I was an hyperactive child and was banned of schools because of it. I love to walk for hours while thinking about a new idea or a problem. Can you mesure the deep intensity of my fear of losing my movements? :(( I was shocked. At same time, he gave me an answer and new perspectives. I wanted it more than everything at that point. Certainly, it was not a good answer, but I had finally a rational justification for the strong pains able to make me fainting, able to make my lovely always low blood pressure becoming crazily high in some moments... My body was/is so fucking healthy that most of doctors simply said it was stress, maybe psychological pain... Sorry, my body and I never were needy enough for pretending to be sick for getting attention. And, well, I do love my body. It survived to real sick shit and is keeping me alive very, very well. Amazing healing capacity, wow... Something was wrong and now I know what is and it makes me pretty happy. I can't fix it by myself, but life is funnier than ever because I know I won't die: I will run on beaches again, watching the sea and the sun rising, darling. (I just need to win a judicial battle first... 'Meh' things, you know. I am wasting my precious time with bureaucracy, aff...) And yes, we are very complicated machines. But fortunately, we're also
amazingly good at self-repairing. Although it can take a _long_ time :(
Sorry, learned to analyze spinal exams in the last months and, well, I love my body's efficiency but it cannot to repair this kind of damage alone and I am not able to operate my own back, even using mirrors or whatever... I do hate to feel pain, you know. I sincerely prefer to ask for professional help this time, Mirimir! :(( Be well <3
I will be well, sweetheart. Please, take care and be well too. I love you. <3
On 07/28/2020 03:35 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 22:23 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/27/2020 04:24 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
My dearest love, may you tell me the reasons why you don't you trust surgeons, please?
Because, for the most part, what they know is anatomy and surgery, and so they tend to see surgery as the best option. They're also more full of themselves than other doctors.
The history of spinal surgery, in particular, is replete with all sorts of disastrous operations. See https://duckduckgo.com/?q=malpractice+spinal+surgery&t=ffnt&ia=web for examples.
Oh, the most disastrous operations in the history of spinal surgery... W-O-W, loved it! All I wanted to see before my pretty complex spinal surgery, sweetie! <3
Just be careful, my dear :)
Hahahahaha!!! ;D
<3
Mirimir, I do love you. You and my doctor always think I am a very rational creature, able to analyze creepy situations with cold blood, hahahaha!!! Nobody else in this world would believe it, hahahahaha!!! ;D
Yeah, it's hard to be rational when you're broken :(
In this specific moment, your answer will probably be very interesting for
me.
Do you appreciate or, at least, trust doctors in general or not? Some specifically medical area?
I generally don't trust doctors. In the US anyway, they're generally driven too much by greed for money and status. And far too manipulated by the pharmaceutical and device industries. But there are many who are truly caring and competent, of course.
I do care a lot about a neurosurgeon - he used to be one of my best friends before his marriage - and the innocent surgeon who thinks I am a rational person. Sweet boy.
My best friend for years and years was an addicted doctor, Mirimir. That's the reason why I learned a bit about chemicals, my love. He committed suicide and my world became stranger than ever for a considerable time.
You know I do hate lies and labels, but I was "his sweet high school girlfriend" in public. In real private life, he was gay and had more boyfriends than me and all my friends together. But you know, he was a successful doctor and needed a perfect image: - white, male, hetero... He was buried using an Armani suit and red roses, our favorite flowers. I still love him and miss this fucking bitch a lot.
Suicides do fuck up their friends' lives, for sure. It's arguably a communicable disease. But of course, it's also a basic human right.
I trust only a few surgeons. And I would give my life for only one of them
because he saved me a few months ago. Not in a surgery, he explained me very important subjects about my body, trusting in my capacity of processing informations rationally... wow... The human body and its anatomy are fascinating, an astonishing beauty even when is damaged, hurt like mine...
OK, so _he_ sounds like a _good_ surgeon :)
Hahahaha!!! _He_ is a fucking _amazing_ surgeon!!! I made some specific researches about him. :D
Don't feel jealous, my love. I think _he_ has the _same_ preferences than me in several areas. Well, never asked about it. Sorry, he is the guy who will put his hands in my spine, not necessarily in my back. ;)
I'm not jealous. But it'd be a shame if you were incapacitated ;)
(There will be a scar, but he will try to preserve my tattoo.)
Maybe he could shape the incision like a lightning bolt. Or a snake :)
He is a spinal surgeon, darling. And I didn't tell my parents I can die or become paraplegic after the last surgery. I just want to be a butterfly again and get my freedom back.
I was an hyperactive child and was banned of schools because of it. I love to walk for hours while thinking about a new idea or a problem. Can you mesure the deep intensity of my fear of losing my movements? :((
I do get that.
I was shocked. At same time, he gave me an answer and new perspectives. I wanted it more than everything at that point. Certainly, it was not a good answer, but I had finally a rational justification for the strong pains able to make me fainting, able to make my lovely always low blood pressure becoming crazily high in some moments...
My body was/is so fucking healthy that most of doctors simply said it was stress, maybe psychological pain... Sorry, my body and I never were needy enough for pretending to be sick for getting attention. And, well, I do love my body. It survived to real sick shit and is keeping me alive very, very well. Amazing healing capacity, wow...
Something was wrong and now I know what is and it makes me pretty happy. I can't fix it by myself, but life is funnier than ever because I know I won't die: I will run on beaches again, watching the sea and the sun rising, darling.
That does sound wonderful.
(I just need to win a judicial battle first... 'Meh' things, you know. I am wasting my precious time with bureaucracy, aff...)
And yes, we are very complicated machines. But fortunately, we're also
amazingly good at self-repairing. Although it can take a _long_ time :(
Sorry, learned to analyze spinal exams in the last months and, well, I love my body's efficiency but it cannot to repair this kind of damage alone and I am not able to operate my own back, even using mirrors or whatever... I do hate to feel pain, you know. I sincerely prefer to ask for professional help this time, Mirimir! :((
I've been tempted, I admit.
Be well <3
I will be well, sweetheart. Please, take care and be well too. I love you. <3
<3
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:24:16 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I trust only a few surgeons.
Hey Cecilia, it seems that lately you've been interacting with criminals from the medical mafia, aka 'doctors' Why don't you tell us what you learnt from them about the current flu fraud? For instance, it is the doctors the ones who sign the fake 'death certificates' that pretend that people die from the flu. But there must be a lot more information floating around 'doctors'. So what kind of stuff did you hear?
Why such idiots should be allowed to communicate ... ---------- CRYPTOANALYZER ---------- Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 29 July 2020 г., 2:54, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:24:16 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com wrote:
I trust only a few surgeons.
Hey Cecilia, it seems that lately you've been interacting with criminals from the medical mafia, aka 'doctors'
Why don't you tell us what you learnt from them about the current flu fraud? For instance, it is the doctors the ones who sign the fake 'death certificates' that pretend that people die from the flu.
But there must be a lot more information floating around 'doctors'. So what kind of stuff did you hear?
On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:58:18 +0000 таракан <cryptoanalyzers@protonmail.com> wrote:
Why such idiots should be allowed to communicate ...
I'm not sure which idiots you're referring to? (are you actually replying to my message?)
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Wednesday, 29 July 2020 г., 2:54, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:24:16 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com wrote:
I trust only a few surgeons.
Hey Cecilia, it seems that lately you've been interacting with criminals from the medical mafia, aka 'doctors'
Why don't you tell us what you learnt from them about the current flu fraud? For instance, it is the doctors the ones who sign the fake 'death certificates' that pretend that people die from the flu.
But there must be a lot more information floating around 'doctors'. So what kind of stuff did you hear?
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 20:54 Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:24:16 -0300 Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka@gmail.com> wrote:
I trust only a few surgeons.
Hey Cecilia, it seems that lately you've been interacting with criminals from the medical mafia, aka 'doctors'
Why don't you tell us what you learnt from them about the current flu fraud? For instance, it is the doctors the ones who sign the fake 'death certificates' that pretend that people die from the flu.
But there must be a lot more information floating around 'doctors'. So what kind of stuff did you hear?
First of all, a silly joke for you... ;) "I could tell you a Coronavirus joke, but there’s a 99.7% chance you wouldn’t get it." Today _you_ received an invite for visiting one of my favorite hospitals _in person_ and learn a bit more about all the COVID-19 stuff... And, obviously, when I said you are a "hermano", the doctor said a lot of bad words. Very, very impolite words. I blushed a lot. But, well, now you have lots of chocolate, Japanese food - not me!!! - and sick people - not me!!! - waiting for you here. Kisses, take care! <3 c.
OT depressing link: < https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katebubacz/haunting-photos-hiroshima-bo...
Mirimir, Thank you for your calming-to-read public exchange with Cecilia.
of all, I need to learn Japanese again, only after learning more about
strange surgeries, hahaha!! ;D
I don't trust surgeons.
It is rare to hear this opinion, which I share. I have been through multiple surgeries. I was wondering if you have ever heard of patients keeping video of their own surgeries, or of keeping their own organs that have been removed from their bodies? Be well.
On 06/28/2020 09:17 PM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jun 2020 17:51:07 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
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However, it's likely that some populations are more susceptible than others, so it's not as extreme as bananas (clones) or even typical agricultural crops.
yeah the asians are most susceptible. Oh, wait! That was YET ANOTHER bullshit claim, but it turns out that flu hysteria in places like china, korea or japan was over months ago or has a pretty low number of cases - or both.
I just saw a link to Zeberg and Pääbo (2020) The major genetic risk factor for severe COVID-19 is inherited from Neandertals.[0] The abstract follows: | A recent genetic association study (Ellinghaus et al. 2020) | identified a gene cluster on chromosome 3 as a risk locus for | respiratory failure in SARS-CoV-2. Recent data comprising | 3,199 hospitalized COVID-19 patients and controls reproduce | this and find that it is the major genetic risk factor for | severe SARS-CoV-2 infection and hospitalization (COVID-19 | Host Genetics Initiative). Here, we show that the risk is | conferred by a genomic segment of ~50 kb that is inherited | from Neandertals and occurs at a frequency of ~30% in south | Asia and ~8% in Europe. Maybe we ought to protect old people, those with serious health problems, and carriers of this genetic sequence, and let everyone else get on with their lives. <snip> 0) https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.03.186296v1.full.pdf
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 19:50:10 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I just saw a link to Zeberg and Pääbo (2020) The major genetic risk bla bla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis oops, government 'science' looks kinda fucked up... ^-^
On 07/04/2020 03:29 PM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 19:50:10 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I just saw a link to Zeberg and Pääbo (2020) The major genetic risk bla bla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
oops, government 'science' looks kinda fucked up... ^-^
That's a cheap shot ;) And yes, there is a "replication crisis", but it's mostly about psychology.
On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 19:12:49 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
On 07/04/2020 03:29 PM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 19:50:10 -0700 Mirimir <mirimir@riseup.net> wrote:
I just saw a link to Zeberg and Pääbo (2020) The major genetic risk bla bla
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis
oops, government 'science' looks kinda fucked up... ^-^
That's a cheap shot ;)
And yes, there is a "replication crisis", but it's mostly about psychology.
"In 2009, 2% of scientists admitted to falsifying studies at least once and 14% admitted to personally knowing someone who did. Misconducts were reported more frequently by ***MEDICAL*** researchers than others" oops, that's mierdicine, tha very same mafia responsible for the 'covid' fraud-PSYOP. Also, I have a 'source' working in 'genetic engineering' and he says there's a lot of statistical fraud involved in the 'art'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis#Implications_for_the_pharma... Ther you have bullshit like the dwave 'quantum computers' - they don't know if the 'computers' 'work' or not...yet... And that's off the top of my head.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 3:58 AM Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
exactly like the always since there living things appeared on
earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is?
Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them.
You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine is obviously NOT what this is about.
Punk-Stasi, I think I see you agreeing with Mirimir on some points in this thread. Are you letting us know that white supremacists have orchestrated everyone's behavior into voluntarily quarantining themselves, turning our attention away from how differently covid-19 has been handled compared to past similar diseases, such that while we think we are engaging important issues and standing up for our values, we are actually ignoring what is really going on? K
There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 12:45:29 -0400 Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Punk-Stasi, I think I see you agreeing with Mirimir on some points in this thread.
well Mirimir agreed with me when I said this 'covid' thing is a charade (it's a farce too), but he also wrote a bunch of propaganda, so I don't know...
Are you letting us know that white supremacists have orchestrated everyone's behavior into voluntarily quarantining themselves,
Hundreds of millions of people or more were put under house arrest. There's nothing 'voluntary' about that. And it wasn't done by white supremacists...alone. The white supremacists comment was just a side note on Mirimir's indirectly mentioning the chinese-raw-bat bullshit...that appeals to your typical western racist.
turning our attention away from how differently covid-19 has been handled compared to past similar diseases, such that while we think we are engaging important issues and standing up for our values, we are actually ignoring what is really going on?
Yes that part is about right. People are ignoring what's actually going on.
K
There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.
windows 10? android? crapple's i-crap? all of them and more? Ah, look at the Incredible Virtue of Murican Big Business Free Enterprise! Not even a single murican company fails to be evil as fuck.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:08:54AM -0300, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 12:45:29 -0400 Karl <gmkarl@gmail.com> wrote:
Punk-Stasi, I think I see you agreeing with Mirimir on some points in this thread.
well Mirimir agreed with me when I said this 'covid' thing is a charade (it's a farce too), but he also wrote a bunch of propaganda, so I don't know...
Are you letting us know that white supremacists have orchestrated everyone's behavior into voluntarily quarantining themselves,
Hundreds of millions of people or more were put under house arrest. There's nothing 'voluntary' about that.
And it wasn't done by white supremacists...alone. The white supremacists comment was just a side note on Mirimir's indirectly mentioning the chinese-raw-bat bullshit...that appeals to your typical western racist.
You should change your name to "Bat-Soup Stasi 2.0" :)
turning our attention away from how differently covid-19 has been handled compared to past similar diseases, such that while we think we are engaging important issues and standing up for our values, we are actually ignoring what is really going on?
Yes that part is about right. People are ignoring what's actually going on.
K
There is proof inside many peoples' electronics. Proof that a marketing group would contract development of a frightening virus. A virus that responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what people see on their devices. A virus that alters political behavior en masse, for profit.
windows 10? android? crapple's i-crap? all of them and more? Ah, look at the Incredible Virtue of Murican Big Business Free Enterprise! Not even a single murican company fails to be evil as fuck.
A marketing (brain programming) AI inside my phone? ... Nahh .. that's gotta be just a conspiracy, right? Tell me it ain't not so...
On 06/29/2020 09:45 AM, Karl wrote: <snip>
Punk-Stasi, I think I see you agreeing with Mirimir on some points in this thread.
Agreeing or disagreeing with Punk-Stasi are ~equally pointless. Because whatever you agree with, he'll pretend that he was being ironic, and criticize you for agreeing with him.
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020, 23:27 Punk-Stasi 2.0 <punks@tfwno.gf> wrote:
'covid' doesn't exist, and 5G is a dream only for the technofascist 'elites'.
J., some people believe in God, some people believe in chaos. I do prefer chaos, so watching Verizon giving up before being completely fucked is very frustrating. I was just waiting for a bit of mess - sweet, intense, interesting fun, oh! - and you probably know it. Meu humor está péssimo, perdao. Você sabe que sou cordial, mas detesto algumas empresas. Essa está na lista, querido! ;) Sendo sincero, voce consegue me imaginar tendo orgasmos por causa de 5G? Por favor, nao me julgue tao mal. Tenho coisas melhores para molhar minhas calcinhas, hunfs! >:P Mas se eu quiser acreditar na porcaria da COVID, o problema é meu. Meus medos, meus traumas, meus problemas, infelizmente. OK, I am f* stupid. So what?
And the rest of the year could well be worse. As in global financial
meltdown.
that would be great
+ 1. Still waiting for it.
And the rest of the decade could bring the end of our entire civilization.
and that would be so incredibly amazing. Side note, the correct spelling is CESSPOOL, not 'civilization'.
Nah, Mirimir isn't civilized at all... Also both of us, you know it. But in a moment of my life I bought chocolate for you... Sorry, I was pretty angry and eat everything thinking you were ignoring my messages mentioning it. The choco was f* horrible and I hated the taste, but I will buy it again, sorry! :'( And I removed you from my Spam too. But, please, stop thinking I want 5G or you will return right now. It's indecently creepy, f* weird! Ugh!!! (>o<)*
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