OK, so, so far pretty much every individual who makes it to a top position of power, seems to start out with good intentions, only to take a dive on their policies, principles and decency (illegal wars, increasing internal monitoring, no roll back of victimless crimes, etc etc). How could John be potentially any different? Perhaps he could have a 24/7 audio and video broadcast, in real time, so the citizenry can monitor him at all times? Perhaps someone could ask him a long list of Policy/Accountability Promises Questions, and then he can be slashdot-questioned every 2 months on his performance on every one of his platform positions? Has this guy been compromised already? (Compromising sex pictures, drug charges kept under the table, monetary bribes/compromise.) How can the usual types of compromise, which evidently occur for most (all?) USA presidents in the last century, be handled by We the People? Would love to see some possibility of A Better Obama...

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:41:26 +0300 Georgi Guninski wrote:

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 09:05:02AM +0000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Would love to see some possibility of A Better Obama...

Definitely the cpunk juan :)

juan for president!!!!!!

Thank you Georgi. We need an anarchist president who would fight for our anarchist constitution. Those are the pilars of our anarchist state. Otherwise chaos would ensue.

he might give the scumbags hard time, not sure.

Hm. That's a nice ring - it might fit me. But I think I'll pass =P

;)

On 09/10/2015 06:11 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On 9/10/15, Juan wrote:

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On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:41:26 +0300 Georgi Guninski wrote:

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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 09:05:02AM +0000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

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Would love to see some possibility of A Better Obama...

Definitely the cpunk juan :)

juan for president!!!!!!

Thank you Georgi. We need an anarchist president who would fight for our anarchist constitution. Those are the pilars of our anarchist state. Otherwise chaos would ensue.

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he might give the scumbags hard time, not sure.

Hm. That's a nice ring - it might fit me. But I think I'll pass =P

Here's a funny story. In late 2006, I think, I came across Hillary Clinton's campaign website. They wanted recommendations for a campaign theme song. Feeling fey, I suggested "If I Was [sic] President" by Wyclef Jean. That was before President Obama had become a leading candidate. What a joke. I'm not claiming that Wyclef Jean is an anarchist. But it's at least arguable that he's a decent man. So it goes.

The test perhaps ought be, can you (/we) elucidate anarchist beliefs, benefits, cautions, etc, to enough people such that someone who's not you chooses to run for president on an anarchist platform?

Such changes can surely only occur with the leverage of "getting it out there, and "it" being appealing to enough of the general population".

Juan, are there aspects of political anarchism (I think we need a term other than "anarchy" if we want Joe Sixpack to not glaze over) which you have personal doubts about, or you're not sure about how best to handle, or even unsure about how to educate others about? Perhaps another thread though... but I am seriously interested in a more nuanced discussion than "those USG cunts" ;)

On 09/11/2015 10:47 PM, Juan wrote:

Of course, the guy who wrote that 'declaration of independence' and his accomplices were incredibly sick pieces of shit who used libertarian political theory as facade for the 'foundation' of a literal slave society. Freedom is slavery. Good old Orwell wasn't just talking about the future...

To wit, here's a critical US history book that was popular at US colleges during the 60s by Richard Hofstadter called "The American Political Tradition" https://mega.nz/#!2A8EkYiS!ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 https://mega.nz/#%212A8EkYiS%21ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 (pdf, 34mb) If you do not read anything else, read the forward and the first chapter about our 'founding fathers'. Sick pieces of shit... OFC the author doesn't refer to them as such but the picture painted is tainted by it.

On 09/12/2015 01:50 PM, Juan wrote:

On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:21:56 -0700 Razer wrote:

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To wit, here's a critical US history book that was popular at US colleges during the 60s by Richard Hofstadter called "The American Political Tradition"

https://mega.nz/#!2A8EkYiS!ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 https://mega.nz/#%212A8EkYiS%21ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 (pdf, 34mb)

Thank Razer! I tried a couple of different browsers and just got a blank page. Not sure if it's something at my end, some temporary problem with mega, or what.

Checked it before sending and just now. Link works. Ghostserv shows no trackers at all on the page. Perhaps it's your browser, or something related... Try this @000webhost. About three minutes to download over a wireless connection. Link's broken because riseup doesn't 'like' 000web. http://toolofheresy. herobo .com/files/The%20American%20Political%20Tradition%20-%20Hofstadter,%20Richard.pdf Note that this IS a free account. Bandwidth and bytes transfered have limitation but I doubt, unless EVERYONE on the list d/ls it at once, there should be a problem...

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If you do not read anything else, read the forward and the first chapter about our 'founding fathers'. Sick pieces of shit... OFC the author doesn't refer to them as such but the picture painted is tainted by it.

On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 01:57:34PM -0400, John Young wrote:

Hofstadter Introduction and Chapter 1:

https://cryptome.org/hofstadter-intro-chap-1.pdf

The whole appears to be in Library Genesis in epub format AFAICT.

The entire Hofstadter "The American Political Tradition" https://cryptome.org/2015/09/hofstadter-american-political-tradition.pdf (420 pp, 35MB) At 11:06 AM 9/14/2015, Razer wrote:

On 09/13/2015 11:49 PM, Georgi Guninski wrote:

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On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 01:57:34PM -0400, John Young wrote:

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Hofstadter Introduction and Chapter 1:

https://cryptome.org/hofstadter-intro-chap-1.pdf

The whole appears to be in Library Genesis in epub format AFAICT.

A search for the author's name turned up his other noted works:

Richard Hofstadter Social Darwinism in American Thought, 1992

Richard Hofstadter The Paranoid Style in American Politics: And Other Essays, 1996

...and a book title search turned up nothing.

On Sun, 13 Sep 2015 10:36:12 -0700 Razer wrote:

On 09/12/2015 01:50 PM, Juan wrote:

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On Sat, 12 Sep 2015 08:21:56 -0700 Razer wrote:

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To wit, here's a critical US history book that was popular at US colleges during the 60s by Richard Hofstadter called "The American Political Tradition"

https://mega.nz/#!2A8EkYiS!ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 https://mega.nz/#%212A8EkYiS%21ml3aaZOp1dngBd_M6GprwkXGD9ZhFqaa-Xmfiadb928 (pdf, 34mb)

Thank Razer! I tried a couple of different browsers and just got a blank page. Not sure if it's something at my end, some temporary problem with mega, or what.

Checked it before sending and just now. Link works. Ghostserv shows no trackers at all on the page. Perhaps it's your browser, or something related...

Yes, there's something wrong here, my bad. https://mega.nz doesn't load either (investigating...)

Try this @000webhost. About three minutes to download over a wireless connection. Link's broken because riseup doesn't 'like' 000web.

http://toolofheresy. herobo .com/files/The%20American%20Political%20Tradition%20-%20Hofstadter,%20Richard.pdf

Got it! Thanks Razer!!

Note that this IS a free account. Bandwidth and bytes transfered have limitation but I doubt, unless EVERYONE on the list d/ls it at once, there should be a problem...

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If you do not read anything else, read the forward and the first chapter about our 'founding fathers'. Sick pieces of shit... OFC the author doesn't refer to them as such but the picture painted is tainted by it.

On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:05:03 +0200 rysiek wrote:

Dnia niedziela, 13 września 2015 19:03:07 Juan pisze:

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Checked it before sending and just now. Link works. Ghostserv shows no trackers at all on the page. Perhaps it's your browser, or something related...

Yes, there's something wrong here, my bad. https://mega.nz doesn't load either (investigating...)

Try the Tor Browser. :)

I tried it. With js enabled globally. Same thing. A bunch of different circuits. None works. Pretty weird.

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 20:59:25 +0200 rysiek wrote:

Dnia poniedziałek, 14 września 2015 20:10:17 Juan pisze:

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On Mon, 14 Sep 2015 18:05:03 +0200

rysiek wrote:

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Dnia niedziela, 13 września 2015 19:03:07 Juan pisze:

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Checked it before sending and just now. Link works. Ghostserv shows no trackers at all on the page. Perhaps it's your browser, or something related...

Yes, there's something wrong here, my bad. https://mega.nz doesn't load either (investigating...)

Try the Tor Browser. :)

I tried it. With js enabled globally. Same thing. A bunch of different circuits. None works. Pretty weird.

Well, now we know you do use Tor. Interesting.

I used tor habitually in the past. That's how I learnt what kind of shit it is =) https://www.reddit.com/r/AgMarketplace/ J.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=john+mcafee John McAfee: Obamacare Unfixable, Scrap it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o-Flb5CBOo John McAfee: Security is an Illusion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKP0C8zA7_Q John McAfee: Secrets of The Cloud Revealed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwv2YnCnc8w "I like these 50's.... my type of gun :-)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipUZO-PjFY