Fwd: Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID
One for supporting. In fact, anyone know -how- he could be supported? Z ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 18:04:57 +1100 Subject: Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID If Mr. Hertzler wins his lawsuit against the U.S. federal government it may set an interesting legal precedent for religious Australian's who want to obtain a gun licence without photo ID. I believe that any sane, reasonably minded human without a serious criminal record has a natural law, common law and a human rights to own and bear guns for recreation, self-defence and protection of their life, liberty and property. You certainly cannot trust government or the police to protect you and your loved ones 24/7 against armed criminals. Jim Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID Amish man sues government to buy firearm without photo ID, claiming the requirement oppresses his religious freedom a.. Amish Andrew Hertzler was refused a gun without photo identification. b.. He claims Amish view photographs violation of Second Commandment. c.. Hertzler says requirement for photo ID oppresses his religious freedom. d.. He's filed lawsuit against government for right to buy gun without a photo. Article continues at: http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/10/amish-man-sues-government-to-bu...
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:51 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
One for supporting. In fact, anyone know -how- he could be supported?
I hope they start making their own guns, at which point the government will be faced with the choice of either allowing it or allowing anyone whose religion prohibits photographs to purchase firearms without photo ID. Or in fact to exercise any other right without photo ID. Or maybe they'll just send in the ATF tanks, burn down their houses, and pretend the Amish set the fire themselves.
On 10/30/2015 11:05 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
I hope they start making their own guns
Amish or not, technologically advanced firearm or not, a zip gun will land you in jail much faster than an unregistered commercially produced one.
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:16 PM Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/30/2015 11:05 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
I hope they start making their own guns
Amish or not, technologically advanced firearm or not, a zip gun will land you in jail much faster than an unregistered commercially produced one.
To my knowledge, nobody has yet gone to jail over a Liberator.
Not in the US. Yoshitomo Imura is currently in Japanese prison for a designing and 3D printing a revolver. Things in the "defcad" space have advanced quite a lot since the Liberator, by the way: https://twitter.com/fosscad
Yes -- Lance Cottrell Sent from my iPad
On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Sean Lynch <seanl@literati.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:16 PM Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
On 10/30/2015 11:05 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
I hope they start making their own guns
Amish or not, technologically advanced firearm or not, a zip gun will land you in jail much faster than an unregistered commercially produced one.
To my knowledge, nobody has yet gone to jail over a Liberator.
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Yes
-- Lance Cottrell Sent from my iPad
On Oct 30, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Sean Lynch <seanl@literati.org <mailto:seanl@literati.org>> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 12:16 PM Razer <Rayzer@riseup.net <mailto:Rayzer@riseup.net>> wrote:
On 10/30/2015 11:05 AM, Sean Lynch wrote:
I hope they start making their own guns
Amish or not, technologically advanced firearm or not, a zip gun will land you in jail much faster than an unregistered commercially produced one.
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On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Sean Lynch <seanl@literati.org> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 2:51 AM Zenaan Harkness <zen@freedbms.net> wrote:
One for supporting. In fact, anyone know -how- he could be supported?
"Shall Not Be Infringed"
I hope they start making their own guns
It's completely legal to manufacture certain classes of weapons for personal or other use. Doesn't mean it's constitutional, and it sure isn't freedom. Read the docs.
Or in fact to exercise any other right without photo ID.
What?! You mean restore the US and lots of rights and lack of govt / corp tax, restriction and control over people to the way it was before the 1920's and all the bullshit lawmaking since then? People wouldn't know what to do with the self responsibility, those old ways are forgotten in favor of their minders and teats.
Or maybe they'll just send in the ATF tanks, burn down their houses, and pretend the Amish set the fire themselves.
Probably yes, they dig ragekilling people who just want to be left alone over stupid paper violations. This guy needs to win this case.
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