The Panama Papers: The Secrets Of Dirty Money
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.
What is the main point? The law is written by the rich for the rich. I suspect a lot of laws have subtle workarounds for "optimizing taxes" and worse stuff. What other consequences this may have except to show someone broke local laws and have more virtual money than expected?
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.
What is the main point?
The law is written by the rich for the rich.
I suspect a lot of laws have subtle workarounds for "optimizing taxes" and worse stuff.
What other consequences this may have except to show someone broke local laws and have more virtual money than expected?
You're right, none. I suggest you don't read it, ignore it, and hence make your prophecy self-fulfilling. It will give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside, I'm sure. :) For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/ -- Pozdrawiam, Michał "rysiek" Woźniak Zmieniam klucz GPG :: http://rys.io/pl/147 GPG Key Transition :: http://rys.io/en/147
rysiek wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. What is the main point?
The law is written by the rich for the rich.
I suspect a lot of laws have subtle workarounds for "optimizing taxes" and worse stuff.
What other consequences this may have except to show someone broke local laws and have more virtual money than expected? You're right, none. I suggest you don't read it, ignore it, and hence make your prophecy self-fulfilling. It will give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside, I'm sure. :)
For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/
About your Panama Papers ... Brought to you by US intelligence agencies with special thank to the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), which Pepe Escobar notes is funded by the "Center for Public Integrity"... IOW: "...the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket" One of his commenters: "The Panama Papers are the exact kind of weaponized Psyops posing as an 'activist leak' I wanted to see from Hybrid Warfare." THE ULTIMATE LIMITED HANGOUT LEAK Put on your Panama hat and dance the leak. And if you believe in the integrity of the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), I got a made in Shenzhen Panama hat to sell ya. I never was, and never will be, a member of this racket; well, people asked me, and I'm answering. The ICIJ gets its cash and its "organizational procedure" via the Exceptionalistan-based Center for Public Integrity. The money comes from: Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Faimly Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket. This alleged most massive leak ever was obtained by - what else - US intel. But the REAL leak will never be known. Even the uber-pathetic Grauniad admitted, on the record, that "much of the leaked material will remain private". Why? Because it DIRECTLY implicates a gaggle of Western 0.00000000001% multibillionaires and corporations. All of them play the offshore casino game. https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027375976678 https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027598731678 -- RR "Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble-makers ... And neutralize them, neutralize them, neutralize them"
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:26:26 -0700 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
rysiek wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/
About your Panama Papers ... Brought to you by US intelligence agencies with special thank to the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ),
Exactly. And notice how the morally superior germans (though not as superior as their masters the aamericunts) are fighting against the evil icelanders! "a quarter of iceland's cabinet members held offshore companies" ...which isn't even 'illegal' to start with.
which Pepe Escobar notes is funded by the "Center for Public Integrity"... IOW:
"...the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket"
One of his commenters:
"The Panama Papers are the exact kind of weaponized Psyops posing as an 'activist leak' I wanted to see from Hybrid Warfare."
THE ULTIMATE LIMITED HANGOUT LEAK
Put on your Panama hat and dance the leak.
And if you believe in the integrity of the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), I got a made in Shenzhen Panama hat to sell ya.
I never was, and never will be, a member of this racket; well, people asked me, and I'm answering.
The ICIJ gets its cash and its "organizational procedure" via the Exceptionalistan-based Center for Public Integrity. The money comes from: Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Faimly Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket.
This alleged most massive leak ever was obtained by - what else - US intel.
But the REAL leak will never be known. Even the uber-pathetic Grauniad admitted, on the record, that "much of the leaked material will remain private".
Why? Because it DIRECTLY implicates a gaggle of Western 0.00000000001% multibillionaires and corporations. All of them play the offshore casino game.
https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027375976678 https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027598731678
juan wrote:
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 11:26:26 -0700 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
rysiek wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/
About your Panama Papers ... Brought to you by US intelligence agencies with special thank to the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ),
Exactly.
And notice how the morally superior germans (though not as superior as their masters the aamericunts) are fighting against the evil icelanders!
"a quarter of iceland's cabinet members held offshore companies"
...which isn't even 'illegal' to start with.
Department of Fear @Twitter put it like this: Purpose of #PanamaPapers: 1. Discredit enemies of the Dept. 2. Justify increased financial surveillance of the 99% in name of nabbing the 1% https://twitter.com/FearDept/status/716871055738994688 -- RR "Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble-makers ... And neutralize them, neutralize them, neutralize them"
which Pepe Escobar notes is funded by the "Center for Public Integrity"... IOW:
"...the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket"
One of his commenters:
"The Panama Papers are the exact kind of weaponized Psyops posing as an 'activist leak' I wanted to see from Hybrid Warfare."
THE ULTIMATE LIMITED HANGOUT LEAK
Put on your Panama hat and dance the leak.
And if you believe in the integrity of the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), I got a made in Shenzhen Panama hat to sell ya.
I never was, and never will be, a member of this racket; well, people asked me, and I'm answering.
The ICIJ gets its cash and its "organizational procedure" via the Exceptionalistan-based Center for Public Integrity. The money comes from: Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Faimly Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket.
This alleged most massive leak ever was obtained by - what else - US intel.
But the REAL leak will never be known. Even the uber-pathetic Grauniad admitted, on the record, that "much of the leaked material will remain private".
Why? Because it DIRECTLY implicates a gaggle of Western 0.00000000001% multibillionaires and corporations. All of them play the offshore casino game.
https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027375976678 https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027598731678
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 12:52:26 -0700 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Department of Fear @Twitter put it like this:
Purpose of #PanamaPapers: 1. Discredit enemies of the Dept. 2. Justify increased financial surveillance of the 99% in name of nabbing the 1%
Indeed.
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 12:52:26 -0700 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
Department of Fear @Twitter put it like this:
Purpose of #PanamaPapers: 1. Discredit enemies of the Dept. 2. Justify increased financial surveillance of the 99% in name of nabbing the 1%
One could argue there's a bit of collateral damage among the oligarchy. The piece of propaganda that rysiek kindly linked has a list of evildoers which includes putin...and an asshole argentine football player. One would wonder why they are 'making an example' out of this particular guy. I guess he's not on obomba's team.
juan wrote:
One could argue there's a bit of collateral damage among the oligarchy. The piece of propaganda that rysiek kindly linked has a list of evildoers which includes putin...and an asshole argentine football player. One would wonder why they are 'making an example' out of this particular guy. I guess he's not on obomba's team.
David Cameron's father is in there too. I've noticed that these sorts of mass unsorted dox dumps often have some sort of obfuscation angle to them. Just about the time the congressional Benghazi hearings began someone dumped every damn dox regarding Libya on the media for publishing. The truth gets lost in the clutter and ordinary folks who would be interested eyes glaze over. They end up reinforced in believing what they already 'knew'. -- RR "Through counter-intelligence it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble-makers ... And neutralize them, neutralize them, neutralize them"
On Mon, 4 Apr 2016 15:07:06 -0700 Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
juan wrote:
One could argue there's a bit of collateral damage among the oligarchy. The piece of propaganda that rysiek kindly linked has a list of evildoers which includes putin...and an asshole argentine football player. One would wonder why they are 'making an example' out of this particular guy. I guess he's not on obomba's team.
David Cameron's father is in there too.
Hm. That one may be a bit harder to explain. 'Plausible deniability' maybe? As in "See? We are not (completely) biased". Also, the best propaganda has a % of truth mixed in.
I've noticed that these sorts of mass unsorted dox dumps often have some sort of obfuscation angle to them. Just about the time the congressional Benghazi hearings began someone dumped every damn dox regarding Libya on the media for publishing. The truth gets lost in the clutter
Yes, I was thinking about that too. How much damaging information could, say, a 100 kb text file contain? My guess is a lot. On the other hand, having terabytes of raw data that need to be somehow analyzed isn't as effective. But, truth be told, having access to the raw data is a good thing (assuming it hasn't been tampered with...)
and ordinary folks who would be interested eyes glaze over. They end up reinforced in believing what they already 'knew'.
On Mon, Apr 04, 2016 at 03:07:06PM -0700, Rayzer wrote:
David Cameron's father is in there too.
I suspect there are much more interesting people there, using decent proxies.
On 4/4/16, Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
rysiek wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. What is the main point?
The law is written by the rich for the rich.
For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/
About your Panama Papers ... Brought to you by US intelligence agencies with special thank to the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), which Pepe Escobar notes is funded by the "Center for Public Integrity"... IOW:
"...the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket"
When something 'problematic' (e.g. leaking) becomes a thing, master that thing, be that thing. Have control, you will. Croaky voice, have you. Weak underbellies, sure up, you will.
On 4/4/16, Rayzer <Rayzer@riseup.net> wrote:
rysiek wrote:
Dnia poniedziałek, 4 kwietnia 2016 10:40:18 CEST Georgi Guninski pisze:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca. What is the main point?
The law is written by the rich for the rich.
I suspect a lot of laws have subtle workarounds for "optimizing taxes" and worse stuff.
What other consequences this may have except to show someone broke local laws and have more virtual money than expected? You're right, none. I suggest you don't read it, ignore it, and hence make
your prophecy self-fulfilling. It will give you a warm fuzzy feeling inside, I'm sure. :)
For the rest of you that might be interested, here's another source: https://www.occrp.org/en/panamapapers/
About your Panama Papers ... Brought to you by US intelligence agencies with special thank to the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), which Pepe Escobar notes is funded by the "Center for Public Integrity"... IOW:
"...the Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Family Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket"
One of his commenters:
"The Panama Papers are the exact kind of weaponized Psyops posing as an 'activist leak' I wanted to see from Hybrid Warfare."
THE ULTIMATE LIMITED HANGOUT LEAK
Put on your Panama hat and dance the leak.
And if you believe in the integrity of the "International Consortium of Investigative Journalists" (ICIJ), I got a made in Shenzhen Panama hat to sell ya.
I never was, and never will be, a member of this racket; well, people asked me, and I'm answering.
The ICIJ gets its cash and its "organizational procedure" via the Exceptionalistan-based Center for Public Integrity. The money comes from: Ford Foundation, Carnegie Endowment, Rockefeller Faimly Fund, Kellogg Foundation and the Soros racket.
This alleged most massive leak ever was obtained by - what else - US intel.
But the REAL leak will never be known. Even the uber-pathetic Grauniad admitted, on the record, that "much of the leaked material will remain private".
Why? Because it DIRECTLY implicates a gaggle of Western 0.00000000001% multibillionaires and corporations. All of them play the offshore casino game.
https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027375976678 https://www.facebook.com/pepe.escobar.77377/posts/10154027598731678
Pepe's article not on Facebook version: http://russia-insider.com/en/dance-panama-papers-limited-hangout-leak/ri1376... Well, at least clear directions for those with a genuine intent to infiltrate and leak^B^B^B<ahem> axe to grind... don't wink now.
Will they at least shut down Panama's offshore? Here is a full statement by Mossak in English: http://www.scribd.com/doc/306839585/Declaration-de-Mossak-Fonseca-en-ang lais Another question I keep asking myself: how did the source leak this information? 2.7TB is quite a lot when transferring Online through a secure channel (and that's is if he transfered online). I am assuming through Tor it would take quite a lot of time, nevertheless he did a quite good job, since he was not yet found... On 04/04/2016 04:40 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote:
On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 09:13:30PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
http://panamapapers.sueddeutsche.de/en/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers The Panama Papers is a news leak of confidential documents from an offshore tax haven originating from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca.
What is the main point?
The law is written by the rich for the rich.
I suspect a lot of laws have subtle workarounds for "optimizing taxes" and worse stuff.
What other consequences this may have except to show someone broke local laws and have more virtual money than expected?
-- Kind Regards, Ben Mezger https://benmezger.nl
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