Re: [cryptography] To Protect and Infect Slides
Jake's, Assange's and others' emphasis at 30c3 was to pursue technological offenses rather than futile expectation of political, financial and legal controls of spying which inevitably confirm what spies do, for it is in their interest to support spyin and secrecy to maintain hegemonic, heirarchial institutions under "the rule of law." Reminder, at the origin of cypherpunks there was a crackdown on encryption as a munitions. That skirmish was thought to have been won. Now Snowden has revealed that victory was a delusion, the real one-sided battle was fought surreptiously in secret, not only by contaminating crypto but by development of bypasses, implants, backdoors, booby traps, ruses, scams, bribes, dual-hatted contracts with crypto-hackers. Can an openly avowed combat on the technologies of political control (1) work or will it be demonized, fought by secret underhanded means? Public debate deployed as a ruse in the 1990s as now. (1) An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm This combat is about far more than crypto and coders must be supplemented with all the discplines of science and technology which are now serving industry and the "lawful" hegemons. 30c3 advocated a direct attack on these means, not wait for the public debate to be rigged in favor of the hegemon with PR, propaganda, lobbying, bribery, contracts, scare stories, terrifying incidents, the customary dirty fighting and tricks of spies and "defense" industry. Is that technological attack on the political, financial, legal hegemon likely to succeed? Or will the crackdown on armed (technological) dissent become as violent as it has in the past? There is a likelihood encryption will be restricted, by fiat, by planting weaknesses, by covert attacks, by technological bypasses, by rigged failures to create doubt of effectiveness. That was the way CryptoAG operation was run. Now the RSA ploy is operative. Is the effect of Snowden to be a series of ploys and ruses. Worse, hop on board the paranoia train, is Snowden a disinfo op for leaking gobs of ruses? Musings: A singular feature of hegemons is that they are dominated by "self-regulating organizations" which set the terms and conditions of the ruling entity, assure enforcement of the rules, and perpetuate themselves under "self-regulation." These are successors of royalty which instead of divine right, backed by military power, they invoke the "Constitution," a law which distinctively empowers "lawful" behavior according to the rules of the hegemon. No wonder the US promotes constitutional government around the planet, backed by military power, most often by denigrating other forms of government. A striking parallel is the rise of the clerics in Europe as an alternative to religious hegemons. From clerics came lawyerly self-regulating hegemons. A new religion hidden within supremacist judges' black robes. Enough of lawful self-regulation in secrecy, unpunishable by lawful means. Justice is out of control, prison populations stuffed, bloated law enforcement and spies raiding the public till, private spies, cops and mercenaries worse than the official, or indistinguishable. Back to the military which backs the hegemons. Technology controls its effectiveness, thus the need for the hegemons to control manufacture, distribution, ownership and application of military means. Concentration of wealth through government regulation, economic and tax policy, and military supremacy reifies special privileges and exculpations for the enforcers of law. Law->taxation->enforcement->informants->spying-> assassination->military action.
i am unable to access the slides, or any of the PDF files from cryptome’s front page using google’s chrome app for the iPad. chrome says that the site is behaving “strangely” and that i “cannot proceed” …. this is chrome’s red malware warning page, without an option to proceed at my own risk. JC On Jan 1, 2014, at 8:37 AM, John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote:
Jake's, Assange's and others' emphasis at 30c3 was to pursue technological offenses rather than futile expectation of political, financial and legal controls of spying which inevitably confirm what spies do, for it is in their interest to support spyin and secrecy to maintain hegemonic, heirarchial institutions under "the rule of law."
Reminder, at the origin of cypherpunks there was a crackdown on encryption as a munitions. That skirmish was thought to have been won. Now Snowden has revealed that victory was a delusion, the real one-sided battle was fought surreptiously in secret, not only by contaminating crypto but by development of bypasses, implants, backdoors, booby traps, ruses, scams, bribes, dual-hatted contracts with crypto-hackers.
Can an openly avowed combat on the technologies of political control (1) work or will it be demonized, fought by secret underhanded means? Public debate deployed as a ruse in the 1990s as now.
(1) An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control
http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm
This combat is about far more than crypto and coders must be supplemented with all the discplines of science and technology which are now serving industry and the "lawful" hegemons.
30c3 advocated a direct attack on these means, not wait for the public debate to be rigged in favor of the hegemon with PR, propaganda, lobbying, bribery, contracts, scare stories, terrifying incidents, the customary dirty fighting and tricks of spies and "defense" industry.
Is that technological attack on the political, financial, legal hegemon likely to succeed? Or will the crackdown on armed (technological) dissent become as violent as it has in the past?
There is a likelihood encryption will be restricted, by fiat, by planting weaknesses, by covert attacks, by technological bypasses, by rigged failures to create doubt of effectiveness.
That was the way CryptoAG operation was run. Now the RSA ploy is operative. Is the effect of Snowden to be a series of ploys and ruses. Worse, hop on board the paranoia train, is Snowden a disinfo op for leaking gobs of ruses?
Musings:
A singular feature of hegemons is that they are dominated by "self-regulating organizations" which set the terms and conditions of the ruling entity, assure enforcement of the rules, and perpetuate themselves under "self-regulation."
These are successors of royalty which instead of divine right, backed by military power, they invoke the "Constitution," a law which distinctively empowers "lawful" behavior according to the rules of the hegemon.
No wonder the US promotes constitutional government around the planet, backed by military power, most often by denigrating other forms of government.
A striking parallel is the rise of the clerics in Europe as an alternative to religious hegemons. From clerics came lawyerly self-regulating hegemons. A new religion hidden within supremacist judges' black robes.
Enough of lawful self-regulation in secrecy, unpunishable by lawful means. Justice is out of control, prison populations stuffed, bloated law enforcement and spies raiding the public till, private spies, cops and mercenaries worse than the official, or indistinguishable.
Back to the military which backs the hegemons. Technology controls its effectiveness, thus the need for the hegemons to control manufacture, distribution, ownership and application of military means. Concentration of wealth through government regulation, economic and tax policy, and military supremacy reifies special privileges and exculpations for the enforcers of law. Law->taxation->enforcement->informants->spying-> assassination->military action.
John Young <jya@pipeline.com> wrote: Can an openly avowed combat on the technologies of political
control (1) work or will it be demonized, fought by secret underhanded means? Public debate deployed as a ruse in the 1990s as now.
(1) An Appraisal of the Technologies of Political Control
i was having difficulty understanding what was meant or implied by the use of 'combat _on the technologies of political control', if this is 'combat against' the technologies, or combat using the the technologies, in that they function as weapons platforms and could be leveraged this way. (perhaps it is both-and &or either-or) an example related to this, in terms of an existing interpretative gap that was referenced in relation to the 30c3 presentation, is that a category like "signals intelligence" can be understood in a confined framework reliant upon certain known technologies, and thus a context is established by standardizing this belief such that signals intelligence may relate to computers and-or conversations, encryption, and accessing various such signals i think what is missing in this default view is, again, the context of evaluation that may be predetermined to a larger extent, thus formatting views and beliefs and reasoning, the frameworks used for analysis and conversation and relation about such dynamics, underlying issues, to gauge and discern whatever truth is made accessible within those constraints and parameters. yet it may also be overly limiting, reliant upon narrow categorization that occludes or leaves out other relevant and vital information/data such that 'signals intelligence' likely also co-exists in a context of human physiology, and that those signals are highest value in terms of behavioral control and modification, via surveillance that moves into active attacks against targets (using wireless) thus, a question regarding neurology and mass surveillance is squarely located in a context of signals intelligence as it relates to hacking human physiology and psychology and "intelligence" in the literal- to include both brainwave signals and nerve paths and signals of the body, the nervous system as this platform therefore, signals intelligence without neurology is missing the major salient at the front line of this war, the context involving drugs both prescribed and 'illegal' yet managed by hegemons, and thus psychiatry and neurology and other fields/disciplines are likely structurally involved in unaccounted for dimensions of mass surveillance as these systems are weaponized and used for remote control management via secret methodology this can be related as a condition to culture, how awareness is and is not developed within certain parameters, as to how 'categories' exist, such as crypto or computer science, these separate from medical school issues in a university context, unless those specialists somehow bridge the gap within an interdisciplinary framework, which likely would be secretive, especially if it goes against rules, law, human rights, etc, in a context of war of terror, war of drugs, war by psychiatrists and war by neurologists against noncompliant citizenry, etc the issue then of 'excavating the present' in a wider or larger context than may be normalized and standardized, to make sense of known parameters that exceed existing boundaries of established ideology within a field or discipline, this very 'fixed-idea' of something then bounding/narrow interpretation, unquestioning, censored or disallowed or uninquisitiveness then becoming its own security by keeping out anomalies to attain unrealistic clean-room analysis more and more detached from reality and realistic accounting, instead more about shaping a worldview that could be inaccurate or limited or bounded to a certain interpretation that is part of the problem, an incapacity to relate to what exists in the terms it exists in, which can be both a problem of language and also of consciousness, though involves the way thinking occurs, reasoning, processing of information in given frameworks, perhaps not as accurate as believed the school system and institutions of education reinforcing this, programming or formatting ideology beliefs that then support this faulty framework, normalized, require its view for relation, exchange, debate, social dynamics, hierarchy, which instills, relies upon and defends a false perspective as if by default the most accurate view of 'reality' because it is shared, operative, used as the common language and viewpoint for further programming, as if of common value, yet this value is in pattern-matching of language (sign=sign) and does not involve grounding this language with truth itself (sign=truth). in this way, an illusion is involved that becomes 'consciousness' of shared language as if this is shared truth, simply by communicating beliefs that if matched are true. it is a fallacy, a massive self-deception of civilization itself, most individuals operating within these parameters by default and trained to do so, after being indoctrinated and formatted by the education system into the correct belief that defer and serve this false authority which ignores and denies other truth outside the prevailing opinions that serve this private reasoning i keep trying to write to this idea, yet it is difficult to access without seeming out-of-place... it is that this default condition involves the issue of context, what is perceived to already exist, though when widening this framework to include other 'hidden' or unsupported or unacknowledged or unallowed dimensions and parameters, it then _recontextualizes the situation within a wider range and realm of inquiry and interpretation that, if structural, would provide more data to test and modify given hypotheses and would allow more realistic frameworks for issues involved, such that 'computing' is not a separate realm from other disciplines, nor architecture, nor linguistics, etc. and there is this aspect, this taking account of the existing situation that is equivalent in some sense to archaeology, in that it is dealing with fragments and assemblages, structures and connections, layers and analyses across large spans of time and geographies that can include shared &or unshared cultural traits, in this way typologies such as pottery can be interpreted distinctly within a given culture yet likewise share attributes or skills with other development in other cultures, and these relations map into the artifacts, documenting the relations between peoples and beliefs and practices, as it is written within aesthetics, plans, rituals, peoples, and their organization and development. thus to delve into this realm of context and recontextualization involves opening up a wider framework or scaffolding and testing hypotheses and evaluating situations and analysing them in comparison to other cultures, times, places, to learn what attributes are common, structural, providing information in their presence within the assemblage, what this divulges about practices, from known data, modeling, other research, excavations and larger hypothesis. (this instead of just focusing upon fragments in a given context as if the universal viewpoint, and as it relates to disciplines separated into categories that may be more about signage than the truth involved). so, what if everyone is educated in 'history' that is devoid of accounts of this predominant 20th c. technology in the present day, that people are using as tools & that form the basis for employment, career, livelihoods, social relations. it is like having someone document or analyse the bronze age without mentioning the role of metals in this situation; yet that is how the school system functions in its ideology, technology is made contextless, it does not relate within a traditional model of history except as servant to 'our goals' instead of defining and determining them as its own ideology, that technical values replace human values, and thus, binary processing of computers the ideal thinking for humans in an educational system where memorization and playback of known variables and data are core skills for peoples now dumbed down to machine-functioning, trained for this as if higher evaluation, the ability to repeat others beliefs in a conformist approach to authority, hierarchical authority where 'truths' are known because of pattern matching of language, never accessing/addressing logical evaluation beyond the binary, making all thought superficial, hollow as it relates to, through, extends this systematic POV that becomes the basis for social relations, exchange, development, the ideology of culture, tools themselves -- in this way the following excerpt... "The concept of technology has many and varied interpretations. As emphasised in the interim report (Omega 1996), the definition adopted for the purposes of this work encompasses not just the 'hardware' - the tools, instruments, machines, appliances, weapons and gadgets (i.e. the apparatus of technical performance); but also the associated standard operating procedures, routines, skills, techniques (the software); and the related forms of rationalised human social organisations, arrangements, systems and networks (the liveware) of any programme of political control.2<http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm#2>In other words, it is insufficient to describe developments in a purely technical sense, it is also necessary to consider these technologies as social and political factors.3 <http://cryptome.org/stoa-atpc.htm#3> (1) what stands in the way of signals intelligence being related to reading minds via wi-fi and cellular towers in a weaponized infrastructure of mass surveillance, illegal, hostile to citizenry, in addition to manipulation of nervous systems for behavioral modification and brute-force training (discipline & punishment) of 'circus animals', captives of the hidden ideological oppressor what stands between signals analysis in an ordinary computer context of hacking and cracking and phreaking (still relevant...) as it relates to neurology, psychology, psychiatry, biology, and chemistry, as these combine in the same wireless infrastructure in terms of 'signals analysis' and exploitation of brain and body signaling, including to destroy equipment (read: people) via the attacks, the programming, code, routines, flaws, etc. why is it not possible to _reason within this framework if it does exist, yet is not within the ordinary domain of tools and equipment because it is illegal and secretive, what limits prevent such issues from being communicated about if not the way people think about situations, what viewpoint is used, what is or is not excavated as part of the evaluation, compared structurally signals go further than binary code and encryption goes into nature itself, DNA a major example though also systems, the natural infrastructure of life, of cells and molecular dynamics that also can be programmed, manipulated, including wirelessly and yet this viewpoint has been made illegal within the schools to consider outside a realm of expertise, from any discipline other than those involved, and if secret or hidden work, then it is especially off-limits, presumed to benefit the combined state in its highest (read: lowest) purposes, 'faith-based' zero-doubt, just conform and follow and extend the system to benefit all, those just like the self. those who fit in, do their jobs, etc. even if evil, attacking citizens, functioning against truth. the issues of morality and ethics in relation to technology, a context entirely missing from accounting for such "progress" and thus friction free, the furthered development of this ideology thinkers Lewis Mumford and Jacques Ellul both addressed this condition, the former in terms of 'technics' in civilization and the latter in terms of 'techinque' as these relate to the concept of "technology". that the fragmentary viewpoint is not inclusive of vital information and observations about how it actually exists and functions, from earliest tool use to the most advanced tools of the present-day, including those exceeding human capacities in normal contexts, whether equipment for moving/altering things or processing of data on a scale unimaginable except in terms of the omniscience of a godhead, now that becomes 'the state', yet based on flawed binary evaluation, throwing out unlikeable truth, relying on pseudo-truth, warp, skew, bias, as viewpoint, then universalizing this, it becomes the shared codebase and yet moves further and further away from truth, goodness, reality and instead substitutes it with another lesser version of artifice so the idea of context, recontextualization, the archaeological aspect of spacetime & place, considering a situation within a certain set of parameters and terms and then reinterpreting it anew in a new framework (electromagnetism and civilization) what this allows is taking an issue like 'signal analysis' and mapping it into the larger framework it actually exists within, empirically, in a larger interdisciplinary context where its truth resides in terms of known parameters for such analysis, in that 'intelligence' is more than encoded data on computers, and it is more raw in terms of brainwaves and nerve signaling in terms of what it effects, prime movers of relations instead of representative data, why capture written text if you can access thoughts within the brain directly via infrastructure, or why worry about what a person may do if you could program what they do via behavioral influence, say forcing their nerves to fire in a given way that then causes them to turn a steering wheel and drive off the road, etc. this kind of thing is going on, it is normalized, yet not 'discussed' as part of the same infrastructure, same context, in parallel with issues of breaking computer tools: breaking, destroying people, surveilling their very thoughts and actions via marionette data- attachments, highly toxic connections, abuse-based relations that can be exploited to n-degrees because they are hidden and unacknowledged in 'proper discourse', as if only "crazy" when instead a structural evil undermining all human activity, the deeper situation that exists, the dark forces involved here
Is that technological attack on the political, financial, legal hegemon likely to succeed? Or will the crackdown on armed (technological) dissent become as violent as it has in the past?
a question may be: how is a person grounded in their thoughts and beliefs. do they have an accurate view of the situation and within what parameters. will an attack force a new awareness that does not fit the belief system, such that 'paranormal' must now be accommodated or grounded, yet without the ability to do so, madness and pills could be forced for those 'hearing voices' or becoming suicidal via subliminal influences, etc. those who think they have it figured out, rationalized, yet do not have their thinking straight, that is, for dealing with paradox, how empirical truth and relativism function in terms of perspective and logic, and the ability to reason and see clearly beyond own beliefs, such that the self is fallible, may not be correct in ideology or assumptions about functioning, and have to adapt or learn or question anew, loss of ego and 'superior consciousness' as if single relativistic viewpoints encompass everything accurately, in particular issues like security, crypto, computing, hacking, that only those parameters are enough to grok the situation versus requiring generalist skills, thinking skills prior to this as the foundation for awareness, relations, exchange, work the danger is not in being wrong, it is in obediently serving falsity and not recognizing it, and this can be narcissistic, as if the self alone as a fragment knows more than the integrated and combined whole of awareness, now divided, thus the task of linking views together via logic, structures, to allow empiric processing and relations, securing truth in self and with others and building from this foundation, armature, entablature, state the role of organization is not simply a rule-based formulaic that conjures higher awareness simply by organizing things, it must involve at its core the securing of truth, this accuracy, for this organization to be effective and made real as a model without truth, without advanced logical reasoning, impossible and yet instead what is mediated instead of ideas in their truth is language, the signage, as if simply performing calculations upon this signage is that truth, which is a false perspective of programming and code as ideology, as facade and illusion just like considering mass surveillance only in the accepted parameters and domains of consumer technology versus its wide-open range of influence based on research and studies into capacities in other weaponized and technical contexts, that are also active and deployed in a larger parallel situation involving covert operations, the government against its people this is not occurring within the viewable realm of PHP or some other limiting framework or dynamic. it is vastly larger than any detail or fragment or model or belief in ordinary 'legitimized' views that serve this same subverted ordering, by extending it further. it may have some aspect of code or programming or similarity in structure, yet may exist unaccounted for in the traditional or known model in the given culture of consumer technology, outside or beyond its capacities yet leveraging the skills and _techniques that exist as parameters and dimensions that can likewise involve crypto, hacking, cracking, phreaking.. (subversion of brain and body comms, inner and relational) so how do you move from not being able to talk about this in realistic terms to being able to communicate directly about such a condition, if there are few fragements to piece together a larger picture or view, or that not enough digging has occurred or not enough discoveries, or people are looking in the wrong places or analysis is not including vital data and research of these issues (cf. removing and denying electromagnetism its role within culture, civilization, & 'history', to include the state and its legal framework, the Constitution, exchange, relations of people, our organization, thinking, modeled existence, etc) the normalization of the ideology of science and pseudo-atheistic viewpoint forbid the following reasoning by regular censorship, in that such ideas are not allowed, completely disregarded as if irrelevant, and thus narrowing of context allows false view to be shared as if universal when based on warped, relativistic frame then normalized, reliant on errors, beliefs, opinion structuralized... Musings:
A singular feature of hegemons is that they are dominated by "self-regulating organizations" which set the terms and conditions of the ruling entity, assure enforcement of the rules, and perpetuate themselves under "self-regulation."
These are successors of royalty which instead of divine right, backed by military power, they invoke the "Constitution," a law which distinctively empowers "lawful" behavior according to the rules of the hegemon.
No wonder the US promotes constitutional government around the planet, backed by military power, most often by denigrating other forms of government.
A striking parallel is the rise of the clerics in Europe as an alternative to religious hegemons. From clerics came lawyerly self-regulating hegemons. A new religion hidden within supremacist judges' black robes.
this pretty much says it- without naming it. what this context also involves, and perhaps some people are not aware of these dimensions, is that the Catholic church is at its core based within philosophy (as with Judaism and also Muslims). the ideas of Plato a major role in the development of institutions, including the Church. that _metaphysics are not separated from this, rituals, etc. that there could be very advanced awareness involved in a particular approach that carries over millennia and centuries, such that a local move is not just a fragment, and instead part of a larger cosmic assemblage so, the idea that truth is central to certain institutions, its core, as this relates to issues of governance, strategy, education, perhaps to include communications, moving into the ambiguity of today, a momentary instance in a larger, longer expanse of considerations thus, the role of libraries and astronomy, Moses as an electrician, Ark of the Covenant having electrostatic properties, etc. as this also relates to issues of religion, cultural development, space-time place the importance of science and technology and how it overtakes and eventually overtakes the model of the state as governor, mediator, and replaces human-tending values with machine-based values the issue of categorization seemingly involving institutionalization of Aristotelian worldview as basis for teaching via categorization, if not mistaken, versus Platonic, this also splitting with saints and others who developed the church, its teaching, organization, etc. the potential takeaway or ponderable from this is that 'reasoning' was split between what could and could not be managed within relations - and within language - for addressing these dynamic and changing conditions, as it relates to scientific awareness of a particular domain that then replaces the ideology of the church with the ideology of science & technology, as this new church of the state, its belief system, canon, dogma, ideology, and worship consider that the core of the western church is this relation with higher truth, truth itself. and that 'the metaphysics' that extend or operate beyond the limits of science or remain undefined and-or unacknowledged by them still too can exist, in their truth, even if not validated in a given framework. why this is mentioned is that religion has a foundation in philosophy, in the accuracy of ideas in terms of their evaluation and understanding for the situation that most actually exists. thus, knowledge could remain hidden yet still be active and very real, though unaccounted for within the existing models or even language, yet no less real than, say, technology or equipment or tools. in that _techniques may exist that are equivalent to this, various processes, and in this way alchemy and magic and other dimensions could also co-exist alongside that of scientific sorcery likewise what is intended to be conveyed in this is a recontextualization for issues of crypto, security, communications, 'shared truth', political power, the state, in this context that precedes existing development (and to include a wider frame than western european, including other religions and civilizations now merging into what is 'the world' or earth as realm of awareness, governance, and issues of shared organization, common order, and so on.) and thus to break it down, it would be to consider 'religions' in the framework of a 'one true religion' once mentioned, that this could involve integrating truth as it is separated, verifying and acknowledging its existence, incorporating it in a shared model of awareness, and thus 'truth' really is the core of this religion that is itself philosophy and not -private- in the traditional sense where relativistic private opinion determine moral and ethical frameworks, and instead that these are public issues and they have relevance to every individual and the larger combined whole, especially if not observed or agreed upon, as the condition today what was once whole become fragmented, yet the truth that is shared remains like an entangled connection, within relations, as consciousness and awareness of certain shared principles that map to being human, versus serving nothingness as ideal it is also to include that the Bible (bibles) themselves are known to be related to code, encoded though also cryptic, believed to have within them encrypted information and knowledge about the cosmos, that this could be occurring on many levels and in many kinds of analyses, though may likewise involve more than simply obeying the language and instead, considering it in terms of whatever truth it may hold, how this is evaluated or discerned or considered or disregarded, in what ways it could be related to or through, the book as medium, the institution and yet within it, the ideas and concepts and relations it also defines, parameters, dimensions, principles, ideals, goals, and especially with holy works, lessons, instructions, vision a way of cultivating awareness, understanding, values based on what is and is not valued and interpretation differs widely (for instance, some may believe it is all about subversion and a ploy and thus pretend to follow while reading/writing relations in that framework that is supported, as if Manicheanistic forces of darkness and light contained in its metaphysical framework, the devil of the Godfather structurally related to the Saints and a counterbalancing force, there is much to spiritual instruction that goes beyond simply following rules without questioning or understanding- it is all about questioning, testing, and learning, applying the self in relation to truth, in service to higher truth) so the idea that crypto with computers is the defining parameter for the present in a non-religious world context could itself be a limiting belief that is inaccurate for the dynamics at work & play; to include wars, massive pornography, lawlessness, criminality as this maps to forces of good/evil in service to truth that may be managing these dynamics in hidden terms, in service to the larger goals and agenda, creating cultural frameworks that allow certain development to occur via long-term strategic planning, to include say the rise of drugs and the counterculture as this relates to the CIA, or rise of bondage and alternative sexuality; it could be thoroughly invested in a covert culture operation of millennia old metaphysical processes (including programming via alchemical processes on a scale of society and civilization) and this organization could be orchestrated in that larger context, as with horror movies and other dynamics, including education where even within the rote model of ideological instruction, other principles could still be transmitted and passed on from teacher to student, and be sustained as consciousness, even while the students may be turned into robots via behavioral formatting there is more than one context to the drug war, war of terror, etc. and so how someone evaluates these situations in terms of their parameters, what is active, what is ignored as relevant, then influences the relation, communications, consciousness it seems also, as with religion, those people who observe and serve higher truth are not enemies of one another in most cases, which is perhaps the very basis for civility, scaled to civilization; how difference and similarity span across many-faceted culture all of this to then consider the split from the Catholic church via the Protestant reformation, which could have involved some dimensions not accounted for in normal views, that it may have been a deception operation at its core or served certain principles that functioned against a higher truth and was a contest of views; the result of this in centuries of development appears to be that the focus on philosophy and metaphysics, the core truth of the church, was replaced by a focus on its language, of the bible as a relativistically interpreted document whose interpretation was based on many-viewpoints that offered a variety of authorities to choose from, for how beliefs would align with given principles, themselves that may have been subtle, requiring a foundation in ideas than in simple acts of processing and communicating in this way, the truth of the sign was replaced, substituted by this sign of truth as the communication of signage itself, this matching of the pattern, even if ungrounded from its actuality and existence as truth (i.e. sign=sign replaces sign=truth). there is no quicker way to legitimizing a view that money is truth than equating its material influence or immediate effect upon the senses as this highest truth, this highest power, or supreme cause - perhaps only to those who are unbelievers, in that they do not recognize truth outside of this construct, devoid of its philosophical depth or attachment to the world and nature and values, beyond how it benefits their own self in this way, relativistic truth can trump any other, and stand-in for thinking or ideas as processing of information, parsing of data, yet remain detached from larger accountability or truth than that narrow range defined and upheld, made standard and normalized as culture. and set against human values. this same ideology is that of the education system and most all institutions in their managerial and business focus, as the issues of culture, economic/social/political become about and are defined by issues of money, primarily, first and foremost, it as value system, the basis for principles, relations, exchange prime mover, where its currency does not have truth at its core and instead 'nothing' that is maintained as a shared belief, POV thus maintaining this belief, this false universal perspective of bias and injustice, then requires censorship, not allowing other views that challenge the power of the language to control what is perceived or the terms of its evaluation- 'interpretation'. in this way, hermeneutics of today, of the corrupt state, are those of an atheistic Protestantism that governs over the population and controls the political, social, economic, and cultural domains as managers and exploiters for the benefit of that value system truth is not this singular value: money is. essentially- shit. from there, issues of sexual and other politics, as shared view, aligned with certain principles, practices, organization, & so on Enough of lawful self-regulation in secrecy, unpunishable by
lawful means. Justice is out of control, prison populations stuffed, bloated law enforcement and spies raiding the public till, private spies, cops and mercenaries worse than the official, or indistinguishable.
what this leads to is 'law' or a legal framework that is defined by power over language, to enforce a given interpretation as if it is truth, yet not connected to it in terms of logical accounting where the words are related to concepts and ideas that must also be correct in their interpretation. instead this is assumed; thus 'mankind' can represent humankind, and in this way, the private relativism can function as if universal public empiricism, basis for hegemony or dictatorial empire building via rogue state the point being: law is not based within truth. it is entirely about language as the mediator of this truth, the pattern match made and believed 'equivalent' to truth (sign=sign) in binary thinking, in this way communication and language exchange replace or substitute for thinking which has no depth, no connection with philosophy or metaphysics and instead is surface-relations in and of language as signage. mediating the signage, as if truth and that is what is enforced, upheld, protected, and protects the corrupt state- that this accountability cannot take place, that law is not observant of logical accounting for truth as truth that is, truth can be brought down into a 1 and 0 framework in this same mode of binary processing, people can be proven wrong in their beliefs, yet this is not allowed, it is outlawed even within the schools so that the authority-based view always 'wins' based on control over relativistic, warped, onesided interpretation there is no truth within the legal framework, and so how could justice exist without observance and evaluation of situation in their truth, and yet that is what the legal system consists of and relies upon, a false framework to judge relations and events that preferences an already accommodated view at the expense and exploitation of others who must submit and find their place within it, or be persecuted and forced to surrender to its beliefs as the overriding or 'highest authority' as if this is highest truth when it is not, it is the opposite- there is no there there, really
Back to the military which backs the hegemons. Technology controls its effectiveness, thus the need for the hegemons to control manufacture, distribution, ownership and application of military means. Concentration of wealth through government regulation, economic and tax policy, and military supremacy reifies special privileges and exculpations for the enforcers of law. Law->taxation->enforcement->informants->spying-> assassination->military action.
thus, to reframe this structural sequence accordingly... Language->Law->taxation... [signs]-->Language->Law->taxation... in other words, language is a question, how does interpretation occur, via ungrounded or semi-grounded "beliefs" or via empirical reasoning that is logically evaluated and removed of known errors.. v1. truth-->[signs]-->Language->Law->taxation... v2. pseudo-truth-->[signs]-->Language->Law->taxation... what this ultimately leads to is two realities, one grounded in truth and the other that substitutes 'language' for this truth, via shared viewpoints of matched patterns as if confirmation of 'universal truth'. in this way, 'signs' become this truth, the agreed upon POV=truth... truth <--//-- [signs]-->Language->Law->taxation... in this way, disconnection from accountable truth then references 'nothing' as this truth, the sign replaces and becomes this truth, which is to say 'language' or communication is equated with truth by mere ability to share beliefs and common universal frameworks.. (nothingness) [signs]-->Language->Law->taxation... this leads to the following condition that mediates the state and defines the status quo, at the level of ideology and daily bread... (falsity) [pT.signs]-->Language->Law->taxation->enforcement ->informants->spying->assassination->military action where all communication that is not secured in truth is tending toward increasing falsity by default of relativistic frameworks, and that 'shared belief' is equated with a universal empirical viewpoint as if higher consciousness yet warped, unreal, biased, onesided and must be conformed to as a belief, subjugating and oppressing people via the need to maintain and sustain the underlying falsity that the entire system protects, extends, believes in and _serves there is no question it is evil. it is not truth that is accessed, it is a shared lie that serves materialistic goals, greed, and relies upon behavorial conditioning and brainwashing of populations to uphold, and at the very center or core of this system is money as if truth (money) [pT.signs]-->Language->Law->taxation->enforcement ->informants->spying->assassination->military action justice, rights, freedom, knowledge, action, work, economy, governance, all are subsumed by this framework and must be interpreted within its narrow parameters, and therefore perverted to principles that function against humanity by default of this epic corruption, age-old, enshrined in institutions, people, relations and what side people are on, who they are and what is most important to them, is it truth of the cosmos as it relates to the individual and their place in existence and questions of development of civilization, or is it a narrower consideration without regard for other dimensions that allows a given bias to be extended as a way of life and 'being', which at its core could involve absence, void, loss of awareness, unknowing and wrong views yet belief they are god and all-knowing perhaps key is cybernetic feedback, the ability to evaluate and to self-correct. the absence of this or disregard indicating deeper issues with regard to how truth is managed, both internally and externally as it relates to value system. lies necessary for certain types of people, it is the basis for their entire reasoning, 'the shared hallucination' that is ungrounded, and one day will be accounted for empirically, this being the nature of the cosmos as circuit and continuum 08s00 2l0s9 45nz2
need to clarify this statement...
truth is not this singular value: money is. essentially- shit.
it is a view that presupposes money has become detached from truth, thus in its deteriorated or corrupted state, it is equivalent to or tends towards base ignominious relations
(money) [pT.signs]-->Language->Law->taxation->enforcement ->informants->spying->assassination->military action
sidenote: regarding taxation, for materialists taxes = morality -whereby- money = absolute truth taxation becomes tithing for the atheistic 'church of state' that has as its communion a monetary unit separated from its truth this enforcement of taxation by ideologues is confirmation of faith in money as value, as morality, as highest framework of evaluation, money determining authority, status, 'goodness', success, "truth" it is value removed of truth, and turns the sign ($) into truth incarnate] money is not backed by truth (!!!) -- the commitment (in god we trust) is ultimately an issue of establishing shared truth as a basis for trust, instead this is replaced by a simulated or appearance or mimicry of it, yet without the social commitment to ensure fairness in the exchange instead: money is backed by 'nothing'- nothingness is the ideology that becomes the value, the shared lie is the basis for exchange that then allows onesided exploitation and entropic movement of falsity into the domain of truth, seeking to represent and replace it, while seeming or appearing to uphold its value while subverting/destroying it in this way, broken goods and corrupted items are exchanged for money that makes this exchange _legal via the shared lie, use of language (of law) to enforce and protect this exchange (via falsity that is structural, allowing onesided exploitative practices to occur) and enforced by rules and regulations, against citizens // entropy the issue of quality, of exchange that is backed by moral obligation then is short-circuited, allowing 'shit' to be exchanged, as if equal exchange when instead subverted, sabotaged, weaponized, such that equipment is sold broken, made toxic, triggered to break in or out of warranty, via planned obsolescence & other subversive tactics 'truth' has been devalued and thus unfair exchange normalized, by those who have more power and gain more in the exchange via the institutionalized RIPOFF, via currency itself, divorced from truth, where appeals can only goto nothingness as common denominator as there is no obligation beyond the private self and its power within such a totally corrupt state as defended, protected by "quasi-law" that is removed of truth, and instead uses the power of language that amounts to 'share opinions' to enforce common viewpoints and social relations, hierarchy, institutional privilege, wealth, as if of higher truth implicitly, for its benefit to the 'larger reality' that is itself based in falsity, upheld as if greater awareness, value, in these warped materialistic terms- against people, nature, life itself this becoming the state, losing its soul, replaced by nothingness at its core, then outlawing questioning of this condition as if illegal the US was not built upon this premise, it is a complete and total subversion of originating principles, absolute corruption of its cause, of relations between people, their organization in a shared situation, governance, role of fair exchange, equal rights. instead, some have more rights than others, their rights take away others peoples equal rights, and this has become normalized, this imbalanced viewpoint, belief system, as if natural, moral, basis for exchange, determination of what is true by who it benefits, etc. its ideological core: pure evil (that is, those serving falsity, attempting to extinguish truth from life) jsl0w wio1s 7s90x
...snip... taxation becomes tithing for the atheistic 'church of state' that has as its communion a monetary unit separated from its truth
this enforcement of taxation by ideologues is confirmation of faith in money as value, as morality, as highest framework of evaluation, money determining authority, status, 'goodness', success, "truth" ...snip...
Yours is timeless wisdom and more, for the love of money is the root of all evil yet ours is to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. Hence speaking as someone who works in Washington (though I suspect any capitol would be as much), if you don't have money to dole out, then nothing in the bureaucracy will give you the time of day since you are temporary where they are not. --dan 1 Ti 6:10 Mat 22:21
On 1/9/14, dan@geer.org <dan@geer.org> wrote:
...snip... taxation becomes tithing for the atheistic 'church of state' that has as its communion a monetary unit separated from its truth
this enforcement of taxation by ideologues is confirmation of faith in money as value, as morality, as highest framework of evaluation, money determining authority, status, 'goodness', success, "truth" ...snip...
Yours is timeless wisdom and more, for the love of money is the root of all evil yet ours is to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.
Hence speaking as someone who works in Washington (though I suspect any capitol would be as much), if you don't have money to dole out, then nothing in the bureaucracy will give you the time of day since you are temporary where they are not.
i disagree > remember the covers of newspapers when the handicap woman got out of her wheelchair and was climbing on the capital steps protesting > they won many rights after the huge protest >>> the cynical idea that we are powerless is just the level the social engineering of the neo liberal fascist state wants ppl to perform on -- Cari Machet NYC 646-436-7795 carimachet@gmail.com AIM carismachet Syria +963-099 277 3243 Amman +962 077 636 9407 Berlin +49 152 11779219 Twitter: @carimachet <https://twitter.com/carimachet> Ruh-roh, this is now necessary: This email is intended only for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use of this information, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this email without permission is strictly prohibited.
Keying off of one phrase alone,
This combat is about far more than crypto...
I suggest you immediately familiarize yourself with last month's changes to the Wassenaar Agreement, perhaps starting here: http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2013/international_agreement_reached_con... Precis: Two new classes of export prohibited software: Intrusion software "Software" specially designed or modified to avoid detection by 'monitoring tools', or to defeat 'protective countermeasures', of a computer or network capable device, and performing any of the following: a. The extraction of data or information, from a computer or network capable device, or the modification of system or user data; or b. The modification of the standard execution path of a program or process in order to allow the execution of externally provided instructions. IP network surveillance systems 5. A. 1. j. IP network communications surveillance systems or equipment, and specially designed components therefor, having all of the following: 1. Performing all of the following on a carrier class IP network (e.g., national grade IP backbone): a. Analysis at the application layer (e.g., Layer 7 of Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model (ISO/IEC 7498-1)); b. Extraction of selected metadata and application content (e.g., voice, video, messages, attachments); and c. Indexing of extracted data; and 2. Being specially designed to carry out all of the following: a. Execution of searches on the basis of 'hard selectors'; and b. Mapping of the relational network of an individual or of a group of people. All the same arguments that applied exportation bans for crypto software apply here, especially that of pointlessness. --dan [ Software doesn't spy on people; people spy on people ]
OHAI, Dnia środa, 8 stycznia 2014 16:38:26 dan@geer.org pisze:
Keying off of one phrase alone,
This combat is about far more than crypto...
It is indeed, and many of us are fighting in many more areas than crypto alone. But strong crypto helps immensely, I can assure you from my experience in debating with politicians about Internet censorship ideas. If I can use *both* arguments -- that of surveillance/censorship being unethical and unlawful in a democratic state, AND that of technical difficulties to implementing these due to crypto -- I can be much more effective in such debates: http://rys.io/en/94 http://rys.io/en/109
I suggest you immediately familiarize yourself with last month's changes to the Wassenaar Agreement, perhaps starting here:
http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2013/international_agreement_reached_con trolling_export_of_mass_and_intrusive_surveillance
Precis: Two new classes of export prohibited software:
Intrusion software
"Software" specially designed or modified to avoid detection by 'monitoring tools', or to defeat 'protective countermeasures', of a computer or network capable device, and performing any of the following:
a. The extraction of data or information, from a computer or network capable device, or the modification of system or user data; or
b. The modification of the standard execution path of a program or process in order to allow the execution of externally provided instructions.
IP network surveillance systems
5. A. 1. j. IP network communications surveillance systems or equipment, and specially designed components therefor, having all of the following:
1. Performing all of the following on a carrier class IP network (e.g., national grade IP backbone):
a. Analysis at the application layer (e.g., Layer 7 of Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model (ISO/IEC 7498-1));
b. Extraction of selected metadata and application content (e.g., voice, video, messages, attachments); and
c. Indexing of extracted data; and
2. Being specially designed to carry out all of the following:
a. Execution of searches on the basis of 'hard selectors'; and
b. Mapping of the relational network of an individual or of a group of people.
All the same arguments that applied exportation bans for crypto software apply here, especially that of pointlessness.
I fail to see the relevance of this with regard to discussion of mesh networks and us being able to create another layer on any layer that is already controlled by the government. Such layer (i.e. TOR, I2P, FreeNet, RetroShare) does not fall into any of the categories outlined above (please note the "and performing any of the following" in the first; "having all of the following" in the second).
[ Software doesn't spy on people; people spy on people ]
+1 -- Pozdr rysiek
Thanks. We posted the Wassenaar changes on Cryptome on December 19. http://cryptome.org/2013/12/wassenaar-intrusion.htm http://cryptome.org/2013/12/wassenaar-list-13-1204.pdf The intrusion software has received some but not sufficient attention. And beyond the sections you cite there are many covering other technologies which interrelate and affect crypto. Those have received even less attention, at least in crypto world as far as we have seen. The means to transceive crypto continue to be its Achilles heel and appear headed toward crippling the whole body -- the bubble in which crypto exists precariously dependent on sophisticated support systems which, as seen in the Snowden minimal releases, have overwhelmed public crypto security, not least by leaving the impression public crypto was highly effective. More attention to the support system presumably will be given as the Snowden releases recommence, now dead stopped. Greenwald claimed recently that cryptographers and other techies are now reviewing the material, much of which is beyond the capabilities of journalists, lawyers and politicians. The stumbling block of comprehensive Snowden disclosures is that to do so, allegedly, could severely damage national security. Uh oh, that terrible aroma of complicity to protect secrets too dangerous for the public to know. Instead a few select experts are allowed to perfomr dual-hat assessments. Which is what has led to the current imbroglio of public and expert distrust: who watches the dual-hat experts who operate under the cloak of secrecy. At 04:38 PM 1/8/2014, you wrote:
Keying off of one phrase alone,
This combat is about far more than crypto...
I suggest you immediately familiarize yourself with last month's changes to the Wassenaar Agreement, perhaps starting here:
http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2013/international_agreement_reached_con...
Precis: Two new classes of export prohibited software:
Intrusion software
"Software" specially designed or modified to avoid detection by 'monitoring tools', or to defeat 'protective countermeasures', of a computer or network capable device, and performing any of the following:
a. The extraction of data or information, from a computer or network capable device, or the modification of system or user data; or
b. The modification of the standard execution path of a program or process in order to allow the execution of externally provided instructions.
IP network surveillance systems
5. A. 1. j. IP network communications surveillance systems or equipment, and specially designed components therefor, having all of the following:
1. Performing all of the following on a carrier class IP network (e.g., national grade IP backbone):
a. Analysis at the application layer (e.g., Layer 7 of Open Systems Interconnection (OSI) model (ISO/IEC 7498-1));
b. Extraction of selected metadata and application content (e.g., voice, video, messages, attachments); and
c. Indexing of extracted data; and
2. Being specially designed to carry out all of the following:
a. Execution of searches on the basis of 'hard selectors'; and
b. Mapping of the relational network of an individual or of a group of people.
All the same arguments that applied exportation bans for crypto software apply here, especially that of pointlessness.
--dan
[ Software doesn't spy on people; people spy on people ]
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