Well, I guess Juan's rhetorical question is voicing my concern that crazy-people political rants are not what I sought when I subscribed to this mailing list. Stop talking in blanket terms as 'propaganda' please, have you seen what ISIS PR came up with for this summer? Maybe Zenaan can cry next about their border inviolability next http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6663326/f5c24e5e/isis_shock_video_zomer_2015... Maybe you'll get inspired by people being shot in a car with an RPG, or the explosive necklace or drowning in a cage. Fun Fun Fun. You can discuss the nature of western governments all you like. As long as an argument is well put together I and others will listen and won't even complain. Zenaan's stuff is neither. Well, and in addition of bringing things to the table that are way out of bounds, I also happen to disagree with just everything that Zenaan has to say. Zenaan not believe Russians are operating in the Ukraine. Zenaan conflates ethnic cleansing of an ethnic minority with international politics. Zenaan is tremendously biased towards a lot of issues. Anyway, I've got a pretty sweet solution to this: If you're running spamassassin on your mail server add the following rule in /etc/spamassassin/local.cf body ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT / Harkness/i score ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT 5.0 describe ZENAAN_CAUSES_BRAINROT cpunks.org mailinglist IDS (Idiot Denial System) On 6/23/2015 4:44 PM, Juan wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:05:20 -0400 Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net> wrote:
What's the cypherpunk link in this?
That was part of a discussion on the nature of western governments and western propaganda.
Do you think that discussions on the nature of western governments are off-topic? Maybe banned?
Maybe we should instead talk about how terrible the suffering of US military murderers is?
paging Nick Econopouly <nickeconopouly@gmail.com>
On Thu, 2015-06-18 at 19:41 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
http://russia-insider.com/en/hey-obama-what-about-serbias-territoral-integri...
Summary at bottom, summarizing shifting position of "west" over some time: "So let us recount the western position: - It claimed to uphold the sovereignty and territorial integrity of other countries and the inviolability of borders in Europe - However, this did not extend to the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia which could be trampled at will - Nonetheless, albeit the territorial integrity of Federal Yugoslavia itself wasn’t worth anything, the territorial integrity of its constituent republics seeking independence was holy - Albeit the territorial integrity of the Yugoslav constituent republics of Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina was holy, the territorial integrity of Serbia was not - Albeit Slovenes, Croats and Bosnian Muslims could leave Yugoslavia, Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia - Albeit Serbs could not leave Croatia and Bosnia, Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia - Albeit Kosovo Albanians could secede from Serbia, Kosovo Serbs could not secede from Albanian-run Kosovo - Albeit Kosovo could unilaterally secede from Serbia under NATO military control, Crimea could not unilaterally secede from Ukraine under Russian military control
May world be spared hunger, plague and western principles. "