On 9/5/16 8:13 AM, Razer wrote:
On 09/04/2016 10:30 PM, Zenaan Harkness quoted, I believe John Young:
That sounds like what cypherpunks was set up to combat, the withdrawal from politcial affairs into safe sanctuary of infallible mathematics...
My take on the Cypherpunks charter: Cypherpunks exists to promote free speech, establish that free speech includes the freedom to have secure private speech, and to explore how this can be accomplished. In support of this, to understand implications of technology-enabled free speech and the technical, commercial, and political moves needed to protect free speech. What this does not include is promoting or bashing particular political systems or plotting their demise or constantly going on about insane nonsense. We've seen that train wreck before, Lance.
That's how ALL the problems start. Cloistering and it's whorehouse, Academia.
Nearly all problems come from ignorance. Celebrating ignorance is ignorant. Not seeing that problems almost universally are the result of ignorance and then complaining about those who work to rise above ignorance is ignorant. Sometimes well-studied people make mistakes or are ignorant outside of their narrow focus. Ignorant people constantly make profound mistakes and often breed more ignorance. There is nothing to celebrate there. If you are ignorant, you are being manipulated. You are essentially helpless, a pawn in somebody's plan. It's cute how those who are gradually becoming aware suddenly see how they are being controled and oppressed, but usually have a gaping understanding gap. Teenagers are sure that their parents are controlling and oppressing them. (And they often are, but often not in the way that a teenager thinks.) A college kid who first reads Rand is sure they completely understand how the world works in clear black and white. People reading conspiracy theories and bits of history think they completely understand the nefarious mechanics of the world. Plausible and possible become certainties, resistant to facts and first-hand knowledge and even common sense. Tiresome nonsense, endlessly repeated. OFF TOPIC.
Einstein said if he had known what they were going to do with his theoretical works he would have never cooperated.
Don't be "Einstein".
Don't be the ignorant people he was complaining about.
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