At 6:33 PM -0700 11/24/97, Anonymous wrote: (stuff elided about more computers being deployed in Iraq)

This is an interesting development because it also makes it hard for the Iraqi government to track what is going on, too. The government of Iraq has been aware of the dangers of computers for many years. At one time they were tightly controlled. Even typewriters were controlled. The government had writing samples of each one.

Now, apparently, this policy is loosening. This suggests that U.S. policy of the last 8 years has managed to achieve what Saddam Hussein could not - it has made the Hussein regime a genuinely popular government.

Embargos (or is it embargoes?) tend to alienate the people who are, obviously, most affected. Embargos seldom affect the ruling class. In the case of Iraq, more than a hundred thousand infants and children and others are estimated to have died as a direct result of the embargo. (I don't know if this is precisely accurate, but anytime the U.S. exerts its superpower status to embargo free trade with some nation, obviously there is some effect.) As for Iraq and Hussein, he's JAD...Just Another Dictator. Not that much worse than several dozen others, including most rulers in the Middle East, that the U.S. deals with on a daily basis. For some reason (hint: oil companies), the American President decided to take a stand against his invasion of a neighboring country. No such stands have been taken in recent years in many other such invasions. (Bush may not have properly consulted the oil companies, either, as there is ample evidence that Hussein would _not_ have cut off oil shipments had he succeeded. In fact, he probably would have _increased_ oil exports. Hmmmhhhh.)

Still, it can't be universally popular. How many cypherpunks live in Iraq?

I certainly wouldn't choose to live there. Of the 200 or so nations, there are very few I would choose to live in, and few that would be conducive to "Cypherpunks activities." (It is not an accident that the nexus of the Net and Web is, loosely speaking, "Western Civilization" in general, and America in particular. Many reasons for this. Not just overall wealth, which allows for very good connectivity and zillions of PCs in homes and businesses, but also the First Amendment and facsimiles in European nations. Etc. Etc.) But the whole Iraq situation bugged me, as that is one of the few places I really planned to visit someday as a tourist...Sumeria, Babylon, the Hanging Gardens, all those great Mesopotamian places. Egypt has no attraction to me, but seeing the Gate of Ishtar, what's left of Babylon....wow. Maybe if I'm arrested for anti-government activities here in the U.S. I'll be able to travel safely in Iraq when I get out of prison. (Though by then the CIA may have successfully assassinated Hussein and installed its own repressive government. ) I'm not a champion of Hussein or Iraq, but he's just another dictator (JAD). By the way, I totally and completely and fully reject the U.S. position on Cuba. It seems a slam dunk issue of repressing the liberties of Americans to say they cannot travel to Cuba, cannot trade with Cubans, cannot give money to Cubans, just because the government in D.C. decided 37 years ago to isolate Castro. Castro is JAD, and our isolation of Cuba has helped keep him in power.

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