In Reply to the Message wherein it was written: [elided]

I've heard about something called an OpenDoc Kitchen, which is a periodic

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hack fest put on by Apple for developers of OpenDoc parts where code is actually written.

My understanding is that this will be held at Apple, in Cupertino, in early December.

That was at Apple in Cupertino, 11-13 NOVEMBER, not December. Whoops...I heard about it from Jose Carreon earlier and should have spoken up sooner, but there'll be another. Attendance by Marcel and/or Felix at such a "kitchen" would be an *excellent* idea. An OpenDoc-ish model will uncoubtedly be the one many different OS designers (can you say "redmond?") at least copy someday for look and feel, so it would be smart for DigiCash/Ecash to be in on the early payment models. And anyway, Marcel could use a relaxing visit to sunny California so he can hand-lob a grenade at my house. ;)

They are especially interested in anyone from Digicash who would like to make a digital cash OpenDoc component for Cyberdog, because I've been ranting to them about this picture in my head of someone dragging digital cash icons onto a register icon in a web browser to pay for a purchase. [elided]

You're on _exactly_ the right track, Robert. I hope everybody listens to you. As DC -- or perhaps whatever commercial client development company DC chooses to license the Ecash technology to for spreading this valuable-to-humanity technology far beyond the reach of "only" the big financial companies -- well knows, the version _after_ the next version of the Ecash client will have to be as easy to use as a smartcard if anyone really expects to [insert your favorite politically-sensitive verb here] the worldwide flow of value, perhaps making it more convenient for everyone. The register idea is an interesting one, but I think the belt coin-changer interface is more to the point, both graphically, and metaphorically. The non-expert Person in the Street (maybe even the street-people) will do very well with something like that. dave