Looks like the stalling tactics have begun. I just got a phone call from "Susan Shea" from the National Security Agency. She said that to "make a better determination" she would need a copy of the diskette. I explained (as I had in my written request) that the diskette in question contained exactly the same source code as was printed in Part 5 of the book Applied Cryptography, byte for byte. But she claimed that as she did not have a copy of that, she would still need the diskette. Right. The NSA doesn't have a copy of Applied Cryptography, and has never seen one. Yet, apparently, they signed off on my original CJ request to export the printed book (the State letter mentions comments from the Department of Defense, which is always a code phrase for the NSA in such situations). Sigh. I will send it off to them. This should buy them about two days, unless I get really extravagant and switch from Priority Mail to Express Mail... Phil PS. Does anybody consider it odd that someone from the NSA would actually identify themselves as such?
Phil
PS. Does anybody consider it odd that someone from the NSA would actually identify themselves as such?
They've been doing this for years. There's even a nice sign outside the Fort Meade facility saying "National Security Agency." (It also said "No photography allowed," but I snapped some anyway when I was visiting the area in April, 1992. The NSA sign apparently went up only months earlier.) Such "outings" of spy agency names follow a similar progression: ignorance, denial, revelation, overexposure, nonchalance. I can recall when I was attending Langley High School, in Northern Virginia of course, that the CIA headquarters next to Langley H.S. only had a sign saying "Department of Transportation Testing Track," or somesuch. This was circa 1967. (Of course, keeping "secret" the location of the CIA headquarters was a joke....we all knew it, and so did the Russians, etc.) -- in the early 1970s, the CIA became widely known (hated on campus, etc.). -- in the early 1980s, the NSA become widely known (well, widely known to a certain class of activists and folks like us) (Prior to the 1980s, mention of NSA was rarely made. Employees of NSA didn't mention it, and "Fort George Meade" was the only thing mentioned. Prior to the mid-70s, the NSA name never even appeared in Congressional budgets or reports. Its existence was very widely known, though.) -- in the late 1980s, the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) became known to the public (e.g., the book "Deep Black," about spy satellites...also the works of Richelson and others). Makes you wonder what TLAs are still largely unknown to the public. Paraphrasing "She," "The Agency Whose Name May Not be Spoken." My bet is that FinCEN is just the tip of the iceberg. I have reason to believe an economic espionage unit has been in existence for many years, deriving from the Economic Warfare Unit in World War II. --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."
Phil Karn writes:
Looks like the stalling tactics have begun. I just got a phone call from "Susan Shea" from the National Security Agency. She said that to "make a better determination" she would need a copy of the diskette.
Well, this *might* be a stalling tactic, or it might just be typical bureaucratic behavior. Put yourself in the bureaucrat's place: you start working on this problem, and you decide everything looks OK for approving the request. You take the approval form to your superior for a sign-off, and she asks "How thoroughly did you examine the material?" Nobody in their right mind would want to be in this position and have to answer "Well, I didn't look at it at all. They said it was the same as this other stuff here." -- | GOOD TIME FOR MOVIE - GOING ||| Mike McNally <m5@tivoli.com> | | TAKE TWA TO CAIRO. ||| Tivoli Systems, Austin, TX: | | (actual fortune cookie) ||| "Like A Little Bit of Semi-Heaven" |
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