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I find it interesting that those who control the CypherPunks list would go to great lengths to censor the free speech of list members, and yet be perfectly willing to allow those who wish to view all postings by list members to be subjected to bulk UCE bombing by those outside the list. Am I just blowing smoke in suggesting that this may be just a big FUCK YOU! to the list members who don't want to 'toe the line' in regard to list member censorship? Is there 'anyone' on the list who 'wants' to receive UCE/Spam? If there is, I would certainly like to see the posts indicating their desire to receive it. I am sure that their desire can be realized beyond their wildest dreams. I have no problem with John taking control of his own private list, in order to control its content and future direction, but I think that it is rude beyond belief to make great pretentions of taking actions for 'the good of the list' and yet not lift a single finger to prevent toad.com from aiding in the proliferation of UCE/Spam. Other lists are able to block UCE/Spam, and make an effort to do so, without using it as a 'tool', or an 'excuse', to censor the content of their list by list subscribers. It is obvious that toad.com shows no interest in halting their role as an accessory in the promotion of UCE/Spam, but has the time and energy to censor their list members. The words 'pettiness' and 'bullshit' come to mind, when I view the way that 'moderation' has been approached on this list. If you reply to this post, please do so politely. I'm a sensitive guy, and my feelings are easily hurt. Toto