Minor Language Note
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote:
My main point was that James Dalton Bell has already spent nearly 7 months in jail, and has yet to even be sentenced.
While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality. Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples. I propose we call Jim by the name he calls himself: Jim Bell. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi3i5aWtjSmRH/5AQGFEgf/VcTdGTAqLir3+aBSGPl+sO++KwtOtZca Kg5tqBo1LtC28oVR53mHt86sCaffHy7Rq8kVgycFVg9KArvvvQteUacKpVXfuGpr TbqALDb3+6n2W/wEym51wbtJxUF8Vjfd30arXaoXx2DxZkJymPv4CR6YSkfZQlzA d3bezJKYNxBFiKeXM/0x2CVxF3wVnA7DA93WiwVWwfcHQGw83G3iGeN3+MqumykV Ts5HDS+7DJ0KUndmvcFwGQpAozvM+fbiA1mKJDwh0PmJmECodGAeV5jFhGBhG2GG JC+wMAdHBmYtq/5fbBd7UAfvIQ3gqGPWqxSBLlousQyCd+72iMWOMg== =JS9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality.
Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples.
George Washington Carver, James Fennimore Cooper, Richard Dean Anderson, Clare Booth Luce, Robert Anton Wilson, Francis Scott Key, ..... Your point was what, Monty? (Sometimes people have three names, sometimes two names, popularly used. Criminality has little to do with it. For example, Richard Speck, Charles Manson, John Walker, Aldrich Ames, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols. Most of them presumably have middle names.) Oh, and as to divining what Tim's "intention" was, this mindreading and psychoanalysis shtick is getting old. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
The current? US New & World Report has a cover story on terrorism, in which they report on James Dalton Bell. Pictures, claims that we're right wing extremists, the whole shebang. James Dalton Bell does sound more threatening than Jim Bell. And as to your list, Tim, many of the people you quote are either long dead or serious troublemakers. (Robert Anton Wilson). It does seem that the full name invocation is intentional. Adam Tim May wrote: | | >> While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the | >> use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality. | >> | >> Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous | >> Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples. | | George Washington Carver, James Fennimore Cooper, Richard Dean Anderson, | Clare Booth Luce, Robert Anton Wilson, Francis Scott Key, ..... | | Your point was what, Monty? | | (Sometimes people have three names, sometimes two names, popularly used. | Criminality has little to do with it. For example, Richard Speck, Charles | Manson, John Walker, Aldrich Ames, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Terry | Nichols. Most of them presumably have middle names.) | | Oh, and as to divining what Tim's "intention" was, this mindreading and | psychoanalysis shtick is getting old. | | --Tim May | | The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography | ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- | Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, | ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero | W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, | Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. | "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway." | | | -- "It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once." -Hume
Tiny Tim <tcmay@got.net> writes:
(Sometimes people have three names, sometimes two names, popularly used. Criminality has little to do with it. For example, Richard Speck, Charles Manson, John Walker, Aldrich Ames, Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols. Most of them presumably have middle names.)
We all know what the "C." in "Timmy C. May" stands for... --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
The persona who is thinking of 'selling out' wrote:
Tim May wrote:
My main point was that James Dalton Bell has already spent nearly 7 months in jail, and has yet to even be sentenced.
While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality.
Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples.
I propose we call Jim by the name he calls himself: Jim Bell.
Monty Cantsin
Actually, I prefer 'Chief CypherPunks SpokesPerson'. James Dalton Bell Chief CypherPunks Spokesperson CypherPunks Gang of One - Dalton Chapter
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Adam Shostack -
Dalton Gang of One -
dlv＠bwalk.dm.com -
nobody＠neva.org -
Tim May