Re: FW: websurfer 4.6
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Anonymous wrote:
Not surprising. They confuse random doodling with software, too.
The real problem with NetManage is a severe case of brain death.
My, thanks for your opinion. It may interest you to know that Microsoft recently licensed a bunch of stuff from NetManage (San Jose Merc, no real details given). - -rich - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMMdKlSoZzwIn1bdtAQGYYgF8CIf5Trt1E5YdMCna43irv5MeGgFnzSvP KXQ0ZR22U9MqbFAbrTjVKUB4ojC30lwo =+3ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Rich Graves wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Anonymous wrote:
Not surprising. They confuse random doodling with software, too.
The real problem with NetManage is a severe case of brain death.
My, thanks for your opinion.
It may interest you to know that Microsoft recently licensed a bunch of stuff from NetManage (San Jose Merc, no real details given).
- -rich
Another interesting tid bit is thta the code for Microsfot Internet Explorer is licensed from Spry which has lincensed Java from Sun so theoricly Microsoft will get Java for free (so to speak) now the question is wheather they will be stupid enough to strip it out of their product because they want to push VB. Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Aleph One wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Rich Graves wrote:
It may interest you to know that Microsoft recently licensed a bunch of stuff from NetManage (San Jose Merc, no real details given).
Another interesting tid bit is thta the code for Microsfot Internet Explorer is licensed from Spry which has lincensed Java from Sun so theoricly Microsoft will get Java for free (so to speak) now the question is wheather they will be stupid enough to strip it out of their product because they want to push VB.
And the answer, if you believe what they say, is in a series of PowerPoint presentations and speech transcripts on Microsoft's Web server. http://www.microsoft.com/internet/ I found Bill Gates' presentation rather amusing because he uses the term "broadband" to mean "high bandwidth." He seems to have gotten confused because ATM is supposed to be both. The bit on server tools says Microsoft plans to do everything. Doesn't look like they've really decided on anything. Microsoft Internet Explorer will become the browser choice for everyone. Microsoft Network will ensure that its content is fully accessible to any browser. Microsoft's strategy is to support VB. Microsoft's strategy is to support Java. Microsoft's strategy is to support Blackbird. Microsoft's strategy is to support HTML and VRML. Microsoft supports Internet and Windows Standards (the latter are not defined). The pictures were pretty, though, especially in the Maritz piece. (Which was actually prepared by Bill Conte... how convenient that MS Office saves the author's name and other summary information by default.) -rich
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Rich Graves wrote: [snip]
Microsoft's strategy is to support VB. [snip] -rich
Its interesting to note that all the people that were raving mad about Java seem to be quiet now that MS is proposing to use VB. At least Java was designed from the ground up with security in mind. But VB? Actual binary DDL running around. Just as an explame look at Oracles new PowerBrowers. They have what they call CSP (or client side processing) which are just that VB DDL's that you keep in your machine and if you dont have one d/l. Now their docs say that once you download all it does is warn you so you can authenticate it and scan it for viruses. This is not good. Wanna bet who many people dont? And this is not like Netscape plug ins. Where Netscapes plug ins are ment to handle major content types (like streaming video) and you would get them from a company that then you can sue, CPS are ment to be used anywhere fron plugins type apps down to Java type applets like a ticker tape (their exmaple). Also not that Oracle included BASIC as their client side scripting language. By readin gthe web pages I saw that the scripts seem to have access to the clients history, profile, et la. Anyone for a "Hack Oracle Content"? I will d/l today an play with it, if I mind by guess true who will give me a t-shirt? Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01
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