Re: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture?
From: IN%"unicorn@schloss.li" "Black Unicorn" 29-APR-1996 02:21:27.65 To: IN%"jimbell@pacifier.com" "jim bell" CC: IN%"cypherpunks@toad.com" "Cypherpunks" Subj: RE: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture? Received: from toad.com by mbcl.rutgers.edu (PMDF #12194) id <01I43INDKHI88WWLV8@mbcl.rutgers.edu>; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 02:18 EDT Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA27441 for cypherpunks-outgoing; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from polaris.mindport.net (unicorn@polaris.mindport.net [205.219.167.2]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA27428 for <cypherpunks@toad.com>; Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:17:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unicorn@localhost) by polaris.mindport.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA07591; Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:15:56 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:15:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> Subject: RE: CryptoAnarchy: What's wrong with this picture? In-reply-to: <m0uDagf-00093GC@pacifier.com> Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com To: jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com> Cc: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com> Reply-to: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li> Message-id: <Pine.SUN.3.93.960428234342.5923A-100000@polaris.mindport.net> X-Envelope-to: eallensmith Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Posted-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 00:15:56 -0400 X-Sender: unicorn@polaris.mindport.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Precedence: bulk On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote: [...]
While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a while. Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and more specific 'surgical' attacks. (Motorola stock anyone?)
Wouldn't that partially depend on: A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones, for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here. B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may depend on those phones - the economy - going. -Allen
On Mon, 6 May 1996, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:
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While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a while. Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and more specific 'surgical' attacks. (Motorola stock anyone?)
Watch your attributation. This is my quote.
Wouldn't that partially depend on: A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones, for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here. B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may depend on those phones - the economy - going. -Allen
--- My preferred and soon to be permanent e-mail address:unicorn@schloss.li "In fact, had Bancroft not existed, potestas scientiae in usu est Franklin might have had to invent him." in nihilum nil posse reverti 00B9289C28DC0E55 E16D5378B81E1C96 - Finger for Current Key Information Opp. Counsel: For all your expert testimony needs: jimbell@pacifier.com
On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, jim bell wrote:
[...]
While strong cryptography is powerful, and secure communications liberating, unplugging the phones would about cripple that 'weapon' for a while. Any group rebelling based only on high technology communication is an extremely vulnerable group, both to widespread denial of service, and more specific 'surgical' attacks. (Motorola stock anyone?)
Watch your attributation, this is my quote.
Wouldn't that partially depend on: A. the level of backups - packet radio as a backup for phones, for instance... a reason I've been forwarding the stuff on radio to here. B. the necessity to the government of keeping what else may depend on those phones - the economy - going. -Allen
--- My preferred and soon to be permanent e-mail address:unicorn@schloss.li "In fact, had Bancroft not existed, potestas scientiae in usu est Franklin might have had to invent him." in nihilum nil posse reverti 00B9289C28DC0E55 E16D5378B81E1C96 - Finger for Current Key Information Opp. Counsel: For all your expert testimony needs: jimbell@pacifier.com
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