Re: National Journal article sez net-activism is just political hicks
At 3:06 AM 5/24/96, jim bell wrote:
At 03:31 PM 5/23/96 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Tommorrow, Washington's politically-powerful National Journal reportedly will publish a know-nothing piece of "journalism" saying that net-aided politics is essentially nothing but a batch of ineffective, know-nothing nerds and back-water political hacks.
At least we now know that the National Journal hasn't heard of Cyber-Anarchy--- or they didn't understand one word of it.
What is this "cyber-anarchy" (or "Cyber-Anarchy") you keep talking about? --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
On Thu, 23 May 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
At least we now know that the National Journal hasn't heard of Cyber-Anarchy--- or they didn't understand one word of it.
What is this "cyber-anarchy" (or "Cyber-Anarchy") you keep talking about?
Heh. Check out http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/ for Charles Platt's "Anarchy Online." (Did I mention it here before? Charles talks about a few things we've discussed here, like the Zundel mirrors, Marty Rimm, and the fight over the CDA.) -Declan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 23 May 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
At least we now know that the National Journal hasn't heard of Cyber-Anarchy--- or they didn't understand one word of it.
What is this "cyber-anarchy" (or "Cyber-Anarchy") you keep talking about?
Heh. Check out http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/ for Charles Platt's "Anarchy Online."
(Did I mention it here before? Charles talks about a few things we've discussed here, like the Zundel mirrors, Marty Rimm, and the fight over the CDA.)
Yeah, you'd mentioned it, but I hadn't read it until just now. I see he mentions me on http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/section.2.html, but my name is badly misspelled; it starts with "R," not "D." Donna's name is badly misspelled, too, early on. I wholeheartedly support his conclusions, by the way. They're based on a number of incorrect premises, but any fictions are convenient ones. http://www.stanford.edu/~ajg/project.html http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html - -rich -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMaX2m43DXUbM57SdAQFnWwP8DZQJL7aNCYR7P8nE/A1oRNI6IaxiUbY/ AqSWhr1WC+HjbE+V+790u7a+C4doMe7Ay+sxTe5jQpuFrExE3hMDPN7xjoxQ9rK/ MTX0pdxKIfyZDQxDV/XaxjtdMn5zH/0Ye6C+hC9QuZ8s++l3y7IuiENwOM6BYNi1 qVuzInNA3OI= =AWhp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
A shame that Charles didn't give you all the credit you so rightfully deserve. Holocaust fetishists need all the press they can get. :) Perhaps he thinks you're a net.loon -- I do suggest you ask him! Yours truly, Declan On Fri, 24 May 1996, Rich Graves wrote:
Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 10:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> Cc: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net>, jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com, cp@panix.com Subject: Anarchy Online
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On Thu, 23 May 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 1996, Timothy C. May wrote:
At least we now know that the National Journal hasn't heard of Cyber-Anarchy--- or they didn't understand one word of it.
What is this "cyber-anarchy" (or "Cyber-Anarchy") you keep talking about?
Heh. Check out http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/ for Charles Platt's "Anarchy Online."
(Did I mention it here before? Charles talks about a few things we've discussed here, like the Zundel mirrors, Marty Rimm, and the fight over the CDA.)
Yeah, you'd mentioned it, but I hadn't read it until just now. I see he mentions me on http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/section.2.html, but my name is badly misspelled; it starts with "R," not "D." Donna's name is badly misspelled, too, early on.
I wholeheartedly support his conclusions, by the way. They're based on a number of incorrect premises, but any fictions are convenient ones.
http://www.stanford.edu/~ajg/project.html http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html
- -rich
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On Fri, 24 May 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Yeah, you'd mentioned it, but I hadn't read it until just now. I see he mentions me on http://anarchy-online.dementia.org/book/section.2.html, but my name is badly misspelled; it starts with "R," not "D." Donna's name is badly misspelled, too, early on.
I wholeheartedly support his conclusions, by the way. They're based on a number of incorrect premises, but any fictions are convenient ones.
http://www.stanford.edu/~ajg/project.html http://www.c2.org/~rich/Not_By_Me_Not_My_Views/rebuttal.html
A shame that Charles didn't give you all the credit you so rightfully deserve. Holocaust fetishists need all the press they can get. :)
Perhaps he thinks you're a net.loon -- I do suggest you ask him!
Oh, I have no doubt that he believes everything you tell him. So, Charles, do you think I'm a net.loon, and why? Please reply publicly on cypherpunks. I'd like E. Allen Smith and Jim Bell to read this. Declan, I sincerely apologize by "avoiding" you by going to a long- scheduled DHCP implementation meeting with Rob Riepel and Roger Avedon rather than taking your one call. As I told you, again, yesterday, my alphanumeric pager can be reached via rich@beep.stanford.edu (80 characters from the Subject: line), and I'd be happy to talk to you at any convenient time outside working hours. -rich moderator, comp.os.ms-windows.announce
On Fri, 24 May 1996, Rich Graves wrote:
Oh, I have no doubt that he believes everything you tell him. So, Charles, do you think I'm a net.loon, and why? Please reply publicly on cypherpunks. I'd like E. Allen Smith and Jim Bell to read this.
Your wish is my command, but--who are they? Actually Rich it took me a while to remember you. The Zundel affair didn't loom large in my life (because I wasn't part of it, I guess). I assumed you had long since moved on to more important matters. I have no idea whether you are a net.loon. But I am sorry if I misspelled your name in my book, and indeed as soon as I get offline here, I'm going to do a word search. We're making the text into pages right now, so the time is right. Which Donna did I misspell? Donna Hoffman? --Charles Platt
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