Re: Bomb information ban
Caught from the radio this morning:
Toronto (Canada) city council is debating a by-law to ban information on bomb construction. This after one of the council members was mailed a faulty (or fake) pipe-bomb. Rough quote: ~This is different than the gun control issue because there is no valid use for bombs.~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Bull. They're great for blowing something up.....
I wonder how much of the libraries' engineering books section they'll have to burn because of this.
All. What part of Engineering doesn't have some impact or use in bombmaking/usage? Dave Merriman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Finger merriman@metronet.com for PGP/RIPEM public keys and fingerprints. Unencrypted Email may be ignored without notice to sender. PGP preferred. Remember: It is not enough to _obey_ Big Brother; you must also learn to *love* Big Brother.
On Mon, 3 Oct 1994, David K. Merriman wrote:
Caught from the radio this morning:
Toronto (Canada) city council is debating a by-law to ban information on bomb construction. This after one of the council members was mailed a faulty (or fake) pipe-bomb. Rough quote: ~This is different than the gun control issue because there is no valid use for bombs.~
Bull. They're great for blowing something up.....
I wonder how much of the libraries' engineering books section they'll have to burn because of this.
All. What part of Engineering doesn't have some impact or use in bombmaking/usage?
Genetic Engineering, of course, my silico-centric friend :-) Query: Why is it that, when the usual stream of crypto-conversation begins to dry up, the topic of bombs comes up? Maybe crypto-anarchists should seek to replace the traditional symbol of anarchy (you know, the bowling ball with the fuse) with something more moderne. Any suggestions on what the well-dressed (black trenchcoat and fedora, for tradition's sake) crypto-anarchist is seen clutching in his hand as he skulks off into shadows of Blacknet??? You know, something that would make a good .gif. C. J. Leonard ( / "DNA is groovy" \ / - Watson & Crick <cjl@welchlink.welch,jhu.edu> / \ <-- major groove ( \ Finger for public key \ ) Strong-arm for secret key / <-- minor groove Thumb-screws for pass-phrase / )
Timothy C. May writes:
[symbol picture ideas]
But since neither of those will make for a very comprehensible graphic, perhaps the trench-coated crypto anarchist should be seated in front of a terminal?
Choose whatever picture you like... the *real* symbol is encrypted and stego'd into it :) -- Dan.
<cjl@welchlink.welch,jhu.edu> writes:
Query: Why is it that, when the usual stream of crypto-conversation begins to dry up, the topic of bombs comes up? Maybe crypto-anarchists should seek to replace the traditional symbol of anarchy (you know, the bowling ball with the fuse) with something more moderne. Any suggestions on what the well-dressed (black trenchcoat and fedora, for tradition's sake) crypto-anarchist is seen clutching in his hand as he skulks off into shadows of Blacknet??? You know, something that would make a good .gif.
My favorite anarchist symbol is the monkey wrench. I don't know exactly how much this applies this this group, but I can definately envision crypto-monkey wrenchers (if not simply net monkey wrenchers). -john ---------------------------------------------+---------------------------- John Blair: <jdblair@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu> | this space for rent... voice: (513) 529-3980 | Unix System Administrator, Juggler | Student of Interdisciplinary Studies | (finger me for PGP key)
In article <Pine.3.89.9410032327.A10386-0100000@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu>, cjl <cjl@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> wrote:
All. What part of Engineering doesn't have some impact or use in bombmaking/usage?
Genetic Engineering, of course, my silico-centric friend :-)
Actually, (a bird psych friend tells me) there was a variety of smart- bomb developed in WWII that used a pigeon as its brain. The pigeon would be trained to peck at a building on a map, and then in the falling bomb it would guide the bomb by pecking at a clear panel. I don't think they were actually used, though. -- L. Todd Masco | Ingredients: red, blue, and green quarks, six varieties of cactus@bb.com | gluons, electrons. Some settling may occur in shipping.
should seek to replace the traditional symbol of anarchy (you know, the bowling ball with the fuse) with something more moderne. What, like a zero with a one sticking out? You do know, of course, that explosives increase the entropy of their targets toward maximum. Eric
cjl wrote:
Query: Why is it that, when the usual stream of crypto-conversation begins to dry up, the topic of bombs comes up? Maybe crypto-anarchists should seek to replace the traditional symbol of anarchy (you know, the bowling ball with the fuse) with something more moderne. Any suggestions on what the well-dressed (black trenchcoat and fedora, for tradition's sake) crypto-anarchist is seen clutching in his hand as he skulks off into shadows of Blacknet??? You know, something that would make a good .gif.
But "bombes" have long had a strong connection to cryptography. Lots of bombes at Bletchley Park. As to what well-dressed crypto anarchists are carrying...perhaps a copy of Schneier. Or a PGP diskette. But since neither of those will make for a very comprehensible graphic, perhaps the trench-coated crypto anarchist should be seated in front of a terminal? --Tim May -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@netcom.com | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power: 2^859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available. Cypherpunks list: majordomo@toad.com with body message of only: subscribe cypherpunks. FAQ available at ftp.netcom.com in pub/tcmay
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