SecureDrive Distribution Controversy
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- W. Kinney posted: Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com> writes: >Mike wants to protect himself against a PGP-style investigation >into export of software. But if 1.2 is put up for FTP, it could >conceivably lead to such an investigation. And Mike would >presumably be a potential target. > >This is a confusing situation. What rights does Mike have to >control a derivative product like 1.2, given that he is releasing >it under the Gnu Public License? Legal questions aside, one might hope that within the Cypherpunks at least there might be more of an ethic of respecting the wishes of an author. Edgar seems awfully casual about exposing other people to legal difficulties without their consent, and justifying that by some bullshit technicality doesn't change the reality of it one bit. I for one am most unimpressed. And I would have hoped for more backbone from a group calling itself the Cypherpunks, perhaps we should rename it the Cypherwimps. ~~~~~ ~~~~~ I respected Mike's wishes (once they were clearly expressed) in respect to SecureDrive version 1.0, which was wholly his creation. I will continue to respect his wishes re version 1.1. But (to answer Hal's question) Mike has no control at all of derivitave products like version 1.2 and (to be announced shortly) version 1.3. I have done my best to make clear that Mike is not responsible for my distribution policies re versions 1.2/1.3. But I am not going to allow Mike or anyone else to intimidate me from the exercise of my constitutional right to publish my own code anywhere I damn well please, at least within the USA/Canada. I have not and will not export SecureDrive. I have warned anyone contemplating doing so that they may be violating US law. If someone does so anyway, it's not my fault; and if NSA or DOJ thinks it is, they can try to sell that idea to a judge & jury. If this ridiculous and unconstitutional law (especially an interpretion that publishing domestically constitutes export) needs to be tested, perhaps I'm the best one to do it. I'm retired, & my pension will continue even if I'm in jail. Should I be charged, I hope EFF will be there for me the way they were for Steve Jackson. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLTqvN94nNf3ah8DHAQE1/AP5AetHZReujCW6JZg+x5gG9FQzwuejln++ 6LyPUzHd0bt4mVecq88cHzr40V0lPu2zWEp26sP39+EqTJz05j3rA7a4B3Du7PZ/ u9e7xheXE02sRB9Y+VOjbCyA53T9GXaow6qkHZ+cb4DLx1pp+xHNhlFMOeoDmqg9 rqgPTdKUAE8= =ZcSW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- edgar@spectrx.saigon.com (Edgar W. Swank) SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005 Cupertino, Ca
Yes Some of us Do have backbones.... Thank you Edgar for following through on your convictions... PEOPLE COPYLEFT is COPYLEFT... if you dont want to lose legal control over your code then the answer is obvious DONT COPYLEFT and then whine about others actions... Cypherpunks WRITE and DISTRIBUTE CODE... Kelly Goen - US Internet publisher of PGP 1.0 1991 Subject of US customs Investigation 1993 Subject of US Grand Jury Inquiry 1993-1994 p.s. If you think Phil Z is the only one being hit by this... guess again... in the event indictments are handed down... they can legally come only to me for the publiccation...(offense!!)
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