Re: Stop the presses -- Anti-terrorism bill not that bad

On Fri, 02 Aug 1996, jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com> wrote:
At 07:48 PM 8/2/96 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
and black and smokeless powder taggants.
Such materials will be easy to defeat. Find an indoor shooting range, vacuum up the powder residue that falls in front of the shooting stalls, and you'll have a concentrated mixture of literally hundreds of types of taggants. Add to bomb. Laughing, at this point, is optional.
Jim Bell jimbell@pacifier.com
In addition to powder residue, collect all the spent shell casings you can, especially ones that are of the same caliber as weapons you own. In addition to the possibility of reloading them (and saving a bundle on ammo costs) you can sprinkle them around liberally in the aftermath of an encounter (assuming you survive) and give the crime scene people a bunch of red herrings to deal with. Of course, you should never touch them, (the FBI got DNA samples from stamps the Unabomber licked on his mailbombs, so even tiny droplets of sweat can bust you) and you should collect the actual brass fired and sandblast it. Incidentally, one of the interesting traits of a shotgun is that buckshot is not subject to the ballistics matching techniques used on rifle and pistol bullets. The plastic wads (which prevent the shot from touching the barrel) do not take the microscopically detailed impressions from the barrel that copper or lead bullets do. The heat from firing always melts the plastic slightly--enough to defeat this. Of course, if you leave the fired shells lying around, the primer and ejector marks can bite you...
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
MICRON COMMUNICATIONS, INC., ANNOUNCES AGREEMENT WITH THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION
Boise, Idaho, August 2, 1996 - Micron Communications, Inc., today announced a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRDA) with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) to develop a model Positive Passenger Baggage Matching (PPBM) system. The objective of this PPBM system is to automatically recognize when baggage has been placed on an aircraft without an associated passenger.
Of course, this means that every time they lose your luggage, you will be detained for "suspected terrorist activity", and the plane your luggage was wrongly sent to will be evacuated while the bomb squad takes it to a remote area and blows it up... (the luggage, not the plane) Jonathan Wienke "1935 will go down in history! For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the future!" --Adolf Hitler "46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession, sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting firearms. ...Consider the following statement: I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government." --The 29 Palms Combat Arms Survey http://www.ksfo560.com/Personalities/Palms.htm 1935 Germany = 1996 U.S.? Key fingerprint = 30 F9 85 7F D2 75 4B C6 BC 79 87 3D 99 21 50 CB

JonWienk@ix.netcom.com writes:
Incidentally, one of the interesting traits of a shotgun is that buckshot is subject to the ballistics matching techniques used on rifle and pistol bullet The plastic wads (which prevent the shot from touching the barrel) do not tak the microscopically detailed impressions from the barrel that copper or lead bullets do. The heat from firing always melts the plastic slightly--enough to defeat this. Of course, if you leave the fired shells lying around, the prim and ejector marks can bite you...
Is there truth to the rumor that poking a file inside the barrel will alter the marks on future test firings? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM asked:
Is there truth to the rumor that poking a file inside the barrel will alter the marks on future test firings?
I don't know the answer to this one, but my best guess is, A) yes, but not enough to alter the test firing, and B) whether or not it did, it would be strong evidence of an attempt to screw up such a test. There are few (no?) legitimate reasons to harm one's gun thusly. I have heard, but have not evidence for, is that with use, these characteristic markings change. As a result, putting 200-300 rounds through a gun at the range is enough to alter its identifiable barrel markings sufficiently to defeat forensic matching. Don't know, just heard, but it sounds reasonable. S a n d y ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Nitric Acid wii change barrelling. On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
JonWienk@ix.netcom.com writes:
Incidentally, one of the interesting traits of a shotgun is that buckshot is subject to the ballistics matching techniques used on rifle and pistol bullet The plastic wads (which prevent the shot from touching the barrel) do not tak the microscopically detailed impressions from the barrel that copper or lead bullets do. The heat from firing always melts the plastic slightly--enough to defeat this. Of course, if you leave the fired shells lying around, the prim and ejector marks can bite you...
Is there truth to the rumor that poking a file inside the barrel will alter the marks on future test firings?
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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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