nonviolent AP variant

At yesterday's physical cypherpunks meeting in Palo Alto, Steve Schear and I were talking about the practical/legal/moral aspects of the "assassination politics" scheme; during the course of that conversation, we discussed the possibility that a similar scheme might usefully be employed in a non-violent context, assuming the existence of a working (=legitimate) legal or political system. In a nutshell (this is my later gloss on things we discussed, so confusion should be blamed on me), the system might be organized as follows: One or more organizers announce their intention to create a prize pool concerning a certain question - for example, "The circumstances under which Bill Clinton's presidency ends." The organizers would then collect contributions towards a prize pool to be awarded to the person with the most accurate guess, as well as guesses about the subject matter of the general question. Depending on the gambling/contest laws of the local jurisdiction, the organizers might or might not choose to require a contribution towards the pool in order to register a guess/prediction. Further, the organizers would likely choose to reject any guesses which required or implied the breaking of laws (or the wrongful initiation of force), as they'd prefer not to be investigated/prosecuted in the event that a guesser did something illegal/wrong in hopes of collecting the prize. The contest would then proceed - guesses would likely be held confidentially, time-stamped, to minimize piling on (especially where entry is free). Third parties with information or the ability to legitimately modify the outcome of the contest - for example, former mistresses or business partners who might come forward with otherwise withheld evidence of wrongdoing - would have a strong motivation to provide as detailed a guess as possible, including their particular information, and then to make that information available to the legal/political system so that it would be acted upon. If the prize pool grew large enough, the subject of the question might choose to force the resolution, winning the prize for themselves - e.g., if $10M is enough to tempt Clinton from office, he can predict his own resignation (e.g., "Clinton will resign on Oct 31, 1998, wearing a blue suit and a yellow striped tie; the last sentence of his speech will be 'Darlin', let's git the truck packed, I'm outta here!'") This modification of the "AP" process has several advantages - it's probably legal, it's nonviolent, and it's likely to encourage (rather than undermine) cooperative/consensual governance, instead of rule by fear/force. It seems to be the result of a combination of the "idea futures" system and the reward process for Eric Rudolph as interpreted by Bo Gritz - e.g., get the figure high enough, and the target will turn himself in and use the reward to fund his own defense. It definitely needs a better name than "assassination politics". -- Greg Broiles gbroiles@netbox.com

if you guys spent any fraction of the amount of time thinking about "assassination politics" as a way to improve government, as you did about the legitimate ways that are already available, I think the world would soon be turned into a better place. there are obvious ways of improving the government that are not being tried. but far easier to take the nihilistic "cryptoanarchy" pseudo-ideology of insisting that government is inherently evil, and any thoughts about improving it are inherently sinful and misguided, i.e. blasphemous. the truth is that sheeple are immature and lazy, incapable of planning their destiny past the next 6 pack, and therefore fully deserving of their stormy fate at the hands of a small elite who takes organization seriously-- with only the small unfortunately twist that they are all self-serving parasites. perhaps an economic crash is a natural intermittent human event that says to the public, "wake up"!! a crisis is always a sign of a kind of false image crumbling under truth/reality which will ultimately puncture all lies (but will not deliver slaves from self-imposed slavery, if that is their conscious or unconscious choice).

From Vladimir Z. Nurd:
: if you guys spent any fraction of the amount of time : thinking about "assassination politics" as a way to : improve government, as you did about the legitimate : ways that are already available, I think the world : would soon be turned into a better place. So what are you going to do about it if they don't, Neuro - get on the list and whine? : the truth is that sheeple are immature and lazy, : incapable of planning their destiny past the next : 6 pack, and therefore fully deserving of their stormy fate : at the hands of a small elite who takes organization : seriously-- with only the small unfortunately twist : that they are all self-serving parasites. The sheeple deserve it, but the rest of us don't. Consider abandoning them to their fate. .. Blanc
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