new in EFC's media archives - Mondex, crypto (fwd)
Electronic Frontier Canada's David Jones (djones@insight.dcss.McMaster.CA) posted the following to the EFC mailing list: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New in EFC's media archives: 1. Plastic treasure ... not so smart after all http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/guardian.24sep97.html This article reports that a team in the Netherlands made a "successful attack" on a Mondex chip (Hitachi H8/3101) by activating a test mode in which the chip dumps its contents to a serial port. John Beric, security manager for Mondex simply says "I have never SEEN a report saying they have broken Mondex". (Is this plausible deniability?? ;-) The article also makes mention of EFC getting hassled by the National Bank of New Zealand over a leaked memo. In the mean time, Mondex is trying to ramp up deployment of its new chip, the Hitachi H8/3109, which (for the first time apparently) implements public key crypto. 2. If cops can read E-mail, so can the bad guys http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/gazette.24sep97.html Some coverage of the "crypto" issue in the context of a major international privacy conference held in Montreal last week. EFC scored some coverage for its position statement on crypto: http://www.efc.ca/pages/crypto/policy.html including a quote in favour of strong crypto: "There is a far greater risk to individuals, businesses, and the government if we are unable to effectively prevent criminals from gaining unauthorized access to our records and communications." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
At 3:20 PM -0700 10/1/97, Martin Janzen wrote:
Electronic Frontier Canada's David Jones (djones@insight.dcss.McMaster.CA) posted the following to the EFC mailing list:
2. If cops can read E-mail, so can the bad guys http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/gazette.24sep97.html
Let's not forget that cops are often the bad guys. And I don't mean this in a macho, off-the-pigs way. I mean that throughout history the "cops" are those who have enforced the laws and whims of tyrants, who have arrested and tortured and executed dissidents and nonconformists of all flavors, and who were the "King's men" in the times of the Founders. Even in more recent decades in the U.S., don't forget it was "cops" who harassed civil rights workers, who broke up perfectly legal strikes, who arrested and imprisoned Eugene Debs for speaking out against the draft in particular and a foolish war, WW 1, in general, and so on. One need only look to J. Edgar Hoover and his police state measures. (In fact, the very term "police state" tells us all we need to know about whether or not "Mr. Policeman is Your Friend" is always, or even most of the time, true.) And with full awareness that I am invoking Godwin's Law, the "cops" in Europe in the 1933-45 period were the enforcers of Hitler's policies. Here's a list of some folks throughout history and in various regimes who would likely have reason not to want to escrow their keys with the local police: Jews, Catholics, Protestants, atheists, heretics, schismatics, heathens, poets, authors, Scharansky, Solzhenitsyn, refuseniks, Chinese dissidents, students in front of tanks, Branch Davidians, Scientologists, Jesus, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, African National Congress, UNITA, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, colonial rebels, patriots, Tories, Basque separatists, Algerian separatists, secessionists, abolitionists, John Brown, draft opponents, communists, capitalists, imperialist lackeys, anarchists, Charlie Chaplin, Galileo, Joan of Arc,, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael, civil rights workers, Margaret Sanger, birth control activists, abortionists, anti-abortionists, Michael Milken, Robert Vesco, Marc Rich, Nixon's Enemies, Hoover's enemies, Clinton's enemies, Republicans, Democrate, anarchists, labor organizers, pornographers, readers of "Playboy," viewers of images of women whose faces are uncovered, Amateur Action, Jock Sturges, violators of the CDA, alt.fan.karla-homulka readers, Internet Casino customers, Scientologists, Rosicrucians, royalists, Jacobins, Hemlock Society activists, Jimmy Hoffa, John L. Lewis, Cesar Chavez, opponents of United Fruit, land reformers, Simon Bolivar, Robin Hood, Dennis Banks, American Indian Movement, Jack Anderson, Daniel Ellsberg, peace activists, Father Berrigan, Mormons, Joseph Smith, missionaries, Greenpeace, Animal Liberation Front, gypsies, diplomats, U.N. ambassadors, Randy Weaver, David Koresh, Ayotollah Khomeini, John Gotti, Papists, Ulstermen, IRA, Shining Path, militia members, tax protestors, Hindus, Sikhs, Lech Walesa, Polish labor movement, freedom fighters, revolutionaries, Ben Franklin, Thomas Paine, and "suspects" --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- on or about 971001:1644 Tim May <tcmay@got.net> purported to expostulate: [snip antecedent] +Let's not forget that cops are often the bad guys. [read Tim's excellent analysis and list in original] the thin blue line: just whose side are the police on? "the police are the lowest element of our society" (either Cato or Marcellus at the time of Julius Caesar) the cop is often a thug with a clean enough record to join the force and continue his trade. if you want to break heads, join the police; if you want to destroy buildings, join the fire department. these [wo]men may be public servants, but as Tim points out, just who is the master. In the US, "We the people" should be the masters, but are we? obviously not. read my DejaVu - Cypherpunks as Philosopher Kings. yes, it is inflammatory, but the cards are on the table. we're being set up to have less rights that are available under the UN declaration which has the same right of assembly and protest --as long as it is not against the security of the state. if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. obvious, particularly in America; but think of another implication: if the government of the US no longer truly represents "We the people," is not the government an outlaw government? "if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" takes on a whole new meaning... and, remember, we are not fighting a war with guns; we are fighting a war for the control of communication and information and that is one of the primary functions of cypherpunks: to ensure the freedom of speech, including [specifically] encrypted speech. -- "Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other." --Benjamin Franklin ______________________________________________________________________ "attila" 1024/C20B6905/23 D0 FA 7F 6A 8F 60 66 BC AF AE 56 98 C0 D7 B0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQCVAwUBNDPP1L04kQrCC2kFAQH5cgP/dfDgD4fZuzp/2yLN6RUwkr0UMiCcjR9F IYSiW4aosOPiG2cZSWZOJn+trwvWYjKU4sLRos0c+W/9gRDh99URz1cG93iIDb71 iWbX4Qn4c57LU0pEGZaDygKtOzVZHAramN9yucIFlBy5bkYS65x7HMmco5OkmBtA Fx7kaiXlIP8= =OPCA -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Tim May <tcmay@got.net> wrote on 1 Oct 97:
At 3:20 PM -0700 10/1/97, Martin Janzen wrote:
Electronic Frontier Canada's David Jones (djones@insight.dcss.McMaster.CA) posted the following to the EFC mailing list:
2. If cops can read E-mail, so can the bad guys http://www.efc.ca/pages/media/gazette.24sep97.html
[much interesting exposition on the police as servants of government deleted] I have a question: has any jurisdiction (local, state, federal) in the U.S. resolved the hyprocrisy--maybe better to phrase "double standard"--wherein citizens who commit crimes against persons who perform duties under the color and badge of authority--namely the police--are charged with additional offenses specific for crimes against govt officers--but govt officers who commit crimes against citizens while in the performance of duties under the color and badge of authority would suffer the same penalty as citizens who commit crimes against "just" citizens? (hope you can follow that perhaps awkward question) It is my opinion that if I am charged with felony assault on a police officer, and the judge gives me 2 years for the assault + 1 year for doing it to an officer, that if that cop gets rough with me beyond what is legally necessary (excessive force?) or does it in the commission of other crimes and does so having informed others that the officer is performing his duties (this resolves disputes between the concept of "on-duty" and "off-duty"), then he should get 2 years for the crime + 1 year for having violated the public trust vested in him (i.e., doing while "under the color and badge of authority"). I don't know why I think this way, but it's a concept I call FAIRNESS or maybe JUSTICE. Mitch Halloran Research Biochemist/C programmer/Sequioa's (dob 12-20-95) daddy Duzen Laboratories Group mitch@duzen.com.tr
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- on or about 971002:0941 "S. M. Halloran" <mitch@duzen.com.tr> purported to expostulate: [snip - part of original text follows at the end of new message] the US initiated "Civil Rights" legislation at the Federal level to deal with the abuse of a persons liberty. It has been used many ways, but its original intent was to be able to charge, convict, and punish racist miscreants in the South for murdering Civil Rights activists who would walk scott free when tried for murder as white juries would not convict them (twelve "good" men unanimously). The statue was effectively retroactive. another perfect example, although I personally think poorly applied as I knew the Sergeant who was scapegoated when they convicted the animal who deserved it: The Rodney King case. A suburban white jury not-guiltied the four officers, except one "hung" count on the animal. The Feds stepped in and charged them with Civil Rights violations. for a hilarious exposition on impartial juries, read Mark Twain's Virginia City writings. The animal and the Sergeant were convicted; the judge sentenced them to 30 months or something; the Feds appealed since it was less than the guidelines, and the appeals court sent it back for resentencing; the judge repeated the sentence; by this time they were free anyway. The argument on the sentence is probably still going on... <g> however, specifically to your question of an additive sentence for a person operating under the colour of law: no --except, the prosecutor could file additional charges of 'operating under the colour of law' --and the judge could specify that the sentence for that violation is to run after the others which would extend the time (often referred to as "running wild"). The remedy is there; the difficulty is in getting it applied unless the case is notorious. and, it provides for penalties ranging all the way to the death penalty. a very comprehensive, catch-all law which is rarely applied equally. another great American legal innovation which is even more of travesty: RICO --Racketeering Influenced Corrupt Organizations. it only takes 3 in the conspiracy to invoke it, and by itself it has a mandatory 20 years no parole; if it is 6 or more people, it is life without parole. common law no longer exists in the US. the courts are all Admiralty Courts where the only habeus corpus you have is what the court might gratuitously grant you. FDR sold the country into legal bankruptcy on 9 Mar 33 pledging all Americans and their property as collateral. Bankruptcy is a contract matter, and as such is not subject to common law. Americans live by being licensed to exist --the license starts with the social security number which is now required to be issued at birth. -- "When I die, please cast my ashes upon Bill Gates. For once, let him clean up after me! " ______________________________________________________________________ "attila" 1024/C20B6905/23 D0 FA 7F 6A 8F 60 66 BC AF AE 56 98 C0 D7 B0 +I have a question: has any jurisdiction (local, state, federal) in +the U.S. resolved the hyprocrisy--maybe better to phrase "double +standard"--wherein citizens who commit crimes against persons who +perform duties under the color and badge of authority--namely the +police--are charged with additional offenses specific for crimes +against govt officers--but govt officers who commit crimes against +citizens while in the performance of duties under the color and badge +of authority would suffer the same penalty as citizens who commit +crimes against "just" citizens? -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 Comment: No safety this side of the grave. Never was; never will be iQCVAwUBNDPXbL04kQrCC2kFAQETtQP9HhOCKwFhrG//bLoWvlRF1yAEwGwxuWFB MuFcTp7kVCn1vKEifKQzXUFN/ZyEVG1VkS/Woxl8pW0zLsddefFxEPmveJtXvqTf NyTYbyOane9oNvIFimR/JE45WTrOdsECdn9jwIC2vE+SG2LeYo1d1Nck1XPdK0U+ z6sd0Ch+NgU= =ozSY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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