Re: Question about anarchic systems and natural disasters
Jim Choate writes:
What would be the responce of a anarchic system that was based on profit in regards something like Mitch's impact on Ctl. America and their plea for food and aid?
`Their plea for food and aid' is just that: a plea; it no more creates an _obligation_ to help them than my plea for your money to help rebuild my burned-down house should. Still, in an anarcho-capitalistic system, Mitch would be responded to by private individuals through charitable aid organizations such as the Red Cross (much as it is now). Your asking the question implies that you believe we have or should have an obligation to help Mitch's victims; one that justifies the use of tax money - money that is, in effect, collected at gunpoint from all of us citizen units. By the way, since you're so fond of quoting the US Constitution, please show where the document authorizes the Men With Guns to take their captives'^H^H^H^H^H^Hcitizens' money and give it away to help victims of natural disasters in foreign countries. (Also consider that Mitch is merely one in a long line of natural disasters that have been and continue to be inflicted on various peoples of the world. Some we hear about and some we don't, based on the vagaries of the news media's inclinations and their judgement of how interested the American public will be. We don't end up bailing them all out; only those which one politician or another has decided will make them look `compassionate'. If an equivalent disaster occurred in a less favored nation - say, an earthquake in Iran - you can bet that the US's governmental response would be much less generous.)
Jim Choate writes:
What would be the responce of a anarchic system that was based on profit in regards something like Mitch's impact on Ctl. America and their plea for food and aid?
I see three aspects in which government affects disaster aid in this case. 0) Some of the aid is being given to Central American governments for distribution, rather than to private groups such as the Red Cross; presumably this is because they've got a known infrastructure, they're easy to find :-), they won't rip off too much of the money, and also some of the repair work is fixing roads that they own, If Central America were anarchist, the road money would go to road-maintenance companies or collectives, and the rest would probably be handled between by the Catholic Church and other international charities, plus by the local charities which would be bigger because they'd be doing jobs governments do know. 1) Real charities have to ask people for money to do good things, while governments like the US's can just take and spend the money, and tell their subjects that they should feel good about it, and in cases like this, most taxpayers won't mind too much, though it'd be nice if the Feds would buy a few less nukes in return. Rampant theft is a bad thing for the economy in the long term, but short-term incremental changes can be relatively efficient. Also, in an anarchist society, charities would generally keep a reasonable amount of money on hand for emergencies like this, larger than they do today, but smaller than governments' slush funds. 2) There is some synergy between the skills and equipment needed for disaster relief and those needed for military adventurism, like transportation equipment, strong people, and medical supplies, and if the military aren't busy killing people and breaking things, they've usually got the spare time to go transport food and medical supplies and build the occasional road or two. Even purely defensive military forces aren't directly contributing to society sitting around idle - even a peaceful anarchist society needs some protection against invaders, though there are more efficient and safer approaches than a standing army - and even though they'd be smaller, they can still be helpful. This synergy does occasionally pay off in other ways - policeman are awfully expensive resources to use for directing traffic, but if they're going to be walking a beat anyway to watch for Bad Guys and be available when citizens need them, street corners are a fine place to do it. On the other hand, in a free society, the most common police functions are either not done (like drug wars) or done by the public (like stopping thieves on the street), and hired professionals can be used for higher-skilled activities, like detective work and bounty hunting. Meanwhile, in an anarchy, people would have more money, because they wouldn't be wasting as much of society's resources on unnecessary government functions (though they'd still buy the ones they wanted), and governments wouldn't be interfering with their businesses. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639
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