re: FCC & Internet phones

"Long-Distance Dueling. Free Dialing Via Internet Faces a Challenge From Small Phone Firms."
You seem to forget that the Internet is just about the *only* electronic communications media not controlled/licensed by the FCC in the US. The FCC also prohibits use of cryptography by those with amateur licenses. Warmly, Padgett

There's also an article in today's San Jose Mercury News. I'm just wondering how the hell they would enforce regulations on carrying voice over the Internet. Are they going to analyze every packet? What happens when someone makes a trivial modification to the code, or adds a gateway, so that the voice call uses a different UDP (or more likely RTP) port and header format? They could try to make a frontal assault by regulating the Internet itself, but they should know better. -rich

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There's also an article in today's San Jose Mercury News.
I'm just wondering how the hell they would enforce regulations on carrying voice over the Internet. Are they going to analyze every packet? What happens when someone makes a trivial modification to the code, or adds a gateway, so that the voice call uses a different UDP (or more likely RTP) port and header format?
I wonder what exactly the FCC means by the term "Internet Phone." Does this just mean that software like IPhone will be regulated, or will this also apply to RealAudio and sending uuencoded .WAV files through e-mail. Also, will this regulation apply to video and audio software like CuSeeMe and Mbone software? - --Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm@voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xf9b22ba5 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | bd24d08e3cbb53472054fa56002258d5 "The concept of normalcy is just a conspiracy of the majority" -me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMUIIBLZc+sv5siulAQGTbQQAhlNhKIDKfAnRS4gPXCtTmpcGwBZyHM+4 xQ6/Zvcep8V9xcGayNcA1RT7HFD1qpqIq7Xojgbg76Bv5mK9g4GEVvZN18tFeaDF gcYYG4qO0Wz681D4KsAaeC9OZ8n59StjLGAn/CVmCgI31LCWr/oUYcN31E4+r3gM QU7Ag55idnE= =WFIz -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

I wonder what exactly the FCC means by the term "Internet Phone." Does this just mean that software like IPhone will be regulated, or will this also apply
The thing is that at "best" the Iphone people (et al), are sell Equipment!. NO ONE is SELLING phone service.. I mean Selling phone service means some guy in NYC putting a sign on a store front offering 10 cents a minute calls "anyway where in the world." When you or I use Iphone (etc), we are not selling anything.. Tarrifs are for Selling.. Not "personal use." The only one selling anything is IDT with there plans to have Iphone like calls start in the US go to europe via the Internet and then switch them to regular POTS lines for the call completion.. Any Legal options here? Btw. the worst thing is all the phone companies are very very good a lobbying... congress, the FCC, etc. ALso once FCC regulations something commmerical speach becomes "restricted." Eg., tobbaco ads.. /hawk

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Btw. the worst thing is all the phone companies are very very good a lobbying... congress, the FCC, etc.
ALso once FCC regulations something commmerical speach becomes "restricted." Eg., tobbaco ads..
Hmmm... So any word from the EFF? Perhaps it is time for ISPs to start their own lobbying organization.... --Rob
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A. Padgett Peterson P.E. Information Security
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Harry S. Hawk
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Just Rich
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Mark M.
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Mutant Rob