Re: [REBUTTAL] Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News
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It's not a way of saying I don't understand. Instead, I find your viewpoint incomprehensible and internally inconsistent.
Which, of course, means that there is nothing to understand...for you. However, I do observe that there are meanings in things I, myself, find both incomprehensible and inconsistent. Just because I am unable to understand does not mean that there is no understanding to be had. I am not that important. Are you?
In fact, you Freedom Knight folks seem to be closet censors yourself. Why do you support not carrying newsgroups like alt.config?
I never have supported or opposed alt.config. I have said that it is meaningless, but that was after I understood its purpose. ;-)
Yes, ownership gives you a license to censor. I'm going to have a party in my home a few weeks from now. If I don't like what someone is doing, I'll kick 'em out. I won't do it lightly, but I will fight for my right to do so.
Of course, you may invite anyone you choose, since a party is usually had by inviting people whom you select. If you invite them and then subsequently kick them out when they do things you do not want them to do, I will chastise -you- (if I am present) for your lack of judgement in whom to invite. Their behavior would merely something to learn from, yours would be fashionably dishonorable. BTW, "Kicking them out" is not censorship. A party and a mailing list are usually two different things. The former may include the latter, but the latter is not anything like the former.
Oh, and I plan to subscribe to the freedom-knights mailing list and infest it the way Vulis did cypherpunks. Every hour, on the hour, a crontab script will flood it with rants about Dave (fart) Hayes.
You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list.
What will you do then?
Even if you did such a thing, I have a mail filter. Your messages would be unceremoniously discarded. Have you learned nothing from USENET? ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Ask the American public if they want an FBI Wiretax and they'll say 'no.' If you ask them do they want a feature on their phone that helps the FBI find their missing child they'll say, 'Yes.'" - FBI Directory Louis Freeh, on Digital Telephony, US House (Subcmte. on Telecommunications & Finance) hearing on the Digital Telephony bill, 09/13/94).
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Dave Hayes wrote:
You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list.
So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position? Long live USENET Cabal! - Igor.
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Dave Hayes wrote:
You won't do this, because I won't let you on the list. I, unlike you or Mr. Gilmore, have the judgement on whom to invite to my list. So what's the difference between yours and gilmore's position? Long live USENET Cabal!
Gilmore give you the rope and allows you to hang yourself. Hayes just shoots you between the eyes. Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@smoke.suba.com
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