The moralistic rubbish in response to the Norton Encrypt post is just cover for a surprising technical ignorance about the product among Cypherpunks (myself included). Funny. We'd all have kept shut if the question was "I forgot my NE password. What do I do?" Maybe we should stop discussing anonymous remailers lest they be put to 'amoral' use? I always thought the emphasis on this list was on _technological_ rather than _political_ or _legal_ or _moral_ means to protect privacy and free expression - including the current limitations. The inevitability of technology confounding laws - BlackNet as the 'dark' aspect and "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway" as the 'good' side. That's what makes Cypherpunks different from comp.org.eff.talk and alt.privacy, IMHO. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "In between the breaths is rishab@dxm.ernet.in the space where we live" rishab@arbornet.org - Lawrence Durrell Voice/Fax/Data +91 11 6853410 Voicemail +91 11 3760335 H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA