Re: Response to Duncan
Only solid factual info & techniques to follow... At 11:49 AM 7/20/94 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote:
Facile nonsense! (No offense, Duncan.) Marc Rich is a virtual exile in Zug, unable to visit the U.S., and with an army of lawyers. I'm far from being Marc Rich, in more ways that one, and I have family and friends here in the States. Leaving and not being able to return is "not an option."
Marc Rich was born in Belgium and currently holds Spanish citizenship. He is free to travel anywhere but the US and has $0.5 Billion in compensation. I doubt that he misses New York. It is possible to "internationalize" your family and friends. I did it. It is even easier these days because of cheap travel and telecoms. It is unfortunate that the US (and the Phillipines) claim to tax a national's earnings anywhere on earth but there you have it.
(If Duncan's main advice is that I simply "take the money and run," this is precisely the "one way street," the not easily reversed decision I have said that I may someday take, but not casually
I'm not really speaking to Tim in these pieces (I'm sure that he can take care of himself) but to others. It is quite common for otherwise sophisticated Americans to avoid thinking about expatriation even though objectively it may be their best financial move. I was recently working with a businessman who has been self-employed and successful since he was a teenager. A libertarian, he was heavily involved in Foreign Asset Protection Trusts (FOAPTs). But even this guy was jumpy about expatriation of self and money until he really checked things out. Americans are too provincal.
"Wait ten years" seems to be the key. The IRS considers expats to be responsible for U.S. taxes for each of these 10 years (some details complicate the issue, but the basic point is that failure to file while living abroad is comparable to failing to file here).
However 60% of expatriate Americans don't file. A high rate of non-compliance.
I agree that such self-questioning is stupid. What's it got to do with the issues here, except to confirm that you, like me, and like a big fraction of the subscribers here, are politically incorrect and of an independent mind?
The fact that attempts at social control via political correctness dissolve if you merely refuse to accept them shows a general method of political resistance. The technique applies in many situations. Many control attempts fail if you do no more than oppose them. I know it sounds banal but why don't more people do it? I read constant pissing and moaning on the Nets about the big bad government and I see few people trying to demonstrate a little optimism. There are so many show stoppers out there that are guaranteed to get most control freaks to leave you alone: "My father doesn't believe in sending us to your schools. He says they are controlled by communists." -- My daughter used this one. "I am morally opposed to recycling." -- A real jaw dropper. "But I'm not a resident of this state." -- Saved a guy I know a $400 fine and automatic license suspension. "Where's your warrant." -- Surprising how few people employ this one. "All this agitprop about spousal abuse is merely an attempt to destroy the bourgeois family so that it can be replaced by individuals and weak entities that are dependent upon and hence supportive of the coercive state apparatus." -- They *really* leave you alone after this one.
Maybe this has been the crux of the issue in all these round and round in circles debates: I have no interest in general ideological sloganeering, only in the concrete "nuts and bolts."
"Cypherpunks write code" has resonances elsewhere.
I know that I am given to rhetoric. My wife complains about it all the time. But words are things too. They are code. I do recall that in "Snow Crash" our heroine employed Jesuit Rhetorical programming to protect herself against a Sumerian brain virus. There are "magic words" that will help in most situations. I do have quite a few actual techniques (residential ambiguity, contract/self employment, expatriation both real and virtual, avoidance of database links or key fields, conventional tax planning, multiplication of entities, clean team/dirty team, etc.). I must have talked about all of these on the list from time to time. Sandy and I will be doing so again in our virtual privacy seminar coming soon to a majordomo server near you. All are welcome. We invite public officials to drop by. Since you are rapidly becoming "market actors" like the rest of us you can probably use the info. DCF "Your children will be vastly richer and freer than you are. Be sure to inform them of this fact whenever they complain about life."
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There are so many show stoppers out there that are guaranteed to get most control freaks to leave you alone:
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"But I'm not a resident of this state." -- Saved a guy I know a $400 fine and automatic license suspension.
"Where's your warrant." -- Surprising how few people employ this one.
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Very true. Duncan knows of what he speaks. And another two good ones are: "You have no probable cause to believe that a crime has been committed. I wish to leave now!" "This is unnecessary force!" -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- We have the right to defend ourselves and our property, because of the kind of animals that we James A. Donald are. True law derives from this right, not from the arbitrary power of the omnipotent state. jamesd@netcom.com
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