very big, and you can do what you like. The 8lgm people wrote a demo for Sparc as a proof of concept.

It's worth mentioning that 8lgm (Eight little green men;) has recently changed their policy on how long they wait to make exploit scripts available. It has resonance with what's happened here on cypherpunks lately. They used to publish that there was a hole, but would hold up quite a while on making the exploit scripts available. They were trying to make it safer for manufacturers and give them time to make fixes available first. What actually happened is that manufacturers would put the fixes on the backburner, and often not get around to them at all. 8lgm found that publishing the exploit scripts usually resulted in quick fixes from the vendors. Now the exploitation details are available quite quickly. Patrick _______________________________________________________________________ / These opinions are mine, and not Verity's (except by coincidence;). \ | (\ | | Patrick J. Horgan Verity Inc. \\ Have | | patrick@verity.com 1550 Plymouth Street \\ _ Sword | | Phone : (415)960-7600 Mountain View \\/ Will | | FAX : (415)960-7750 California 94303 _/\\ Travel | \___________________________________________________________\)__________/