Re: PolicyMaker paper available
Mab@Research.Att.Com posted:
A number of people have been asking me about some work I've been doing (with Joan Feigenbaum and Jack Lacy) on alternatives to traditional (X.509, PGP, etc.) identity-based certificates. We've just finished up our paper on the concept, "Decentralized Trust Management", to appear at the Oakland Security Conference in May.
A PostScript pre-print is available in ftp://research.att.com/dist/mab/policymaker.ps
I D/Led this file last night & printed it out. I was a little suspicious at first because you'd think if AT&T really wanted people to read (instead of just wanting to say they published it) they'd put it on the web in http and not use obscure printer codes. But after I read it my suspicious nature was confirmed. Behind all the obscure printer codes and fancy language, it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that this is just a move by AT&T to put itself on top of the internet certificate hierarchy where your're locked in to using AT&T software and internet service (just like RSA and Netscape). You have to license AT&T code to use it and you need an AT&T approved policy attribute or something in order to make it work. Ask yourself why they'd publish this otherwise. Hint: youre safer trusting university research than corporate research-marketing. PGP is good enuf for me.
-matt
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Uh huhhhhhh. Blaze and AT&T are no friends of the cypherpunks and no longer even condesend to pretend as much. Don't even ask me about their motives for supporting the Leahy key escrow bill.
ECafe Anonymous Remailer writes: [Crap]
I D/Led this file last night & printed it out. I was a little suspicious at first because you'd think if AT&T really wanted people to read (instead of just wanting to say they published it) they'd put it on the web in http and not use obscure printer codes.
Huh? Postscript an "obscure printer code"?
Behind all the obscure printer codes and fancy language, it is obvious to anyone with half a brain that this is just a move by AT&T to put itself on top of the internet certificate hierarchy where your're locked in to using AT&T software and internet service (just like RSA and Netscape). You have to license AT&T code to use it and you need an AT&T approved policy attribute or something in order to make it work.
You are on drugs, whomever you are. Matt and company have done some very interesting work here on certificate policies. The work is unpatented and involves no proprietary AT&T technology. In short, you are both an stupid and paranoid. You probably didn't understand what you were reading. If you had a milligram of self respect, you'd come out from behind that anonymous remailer. Of course, I expect that you know that your words are embarassing rather than something to be proud of. The paper in question is seminal. I strongly urge people who don't drool when they open their mouths to read it. Perry
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> writes:
Huh? Postscript an "obscure printer code"?
I now work from a paperless office and find postscript an "obscure printer code". It has taken an annoying amount of hacking to view this postscript file on my PC.
The paper in question is seminal. I strongly urge people who don't drool when they open their mouths to read it.
On the strength of this recomendation I did the hacking and make it available for the "convenience" of others in the same boat. http://www.transarc.com/afs/transarc.com/public/ota/html/policymaker.html This page consists on Matt's original message plus 10 inline gif images of about 40Kb each. Clumsy but effective. Ted Anderson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMVrJBQGojC9e/wyBAQFN3gQAvt1rX/fw76zhlsU0Td8CbBpUCc6qKoel xCX647WovUWnyoGnjCoYYruEPiCI6QT2KUo6dpWRR1dIdZVshLCT3gsnJe5m+qRp rQBthay+T3kk0ZQqVnwlXoLYMJoFQVBhScfxhMta/RGopzS6OYnwrAJHzET62Dgf b0bPURYrkNA= =ZqYX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Ted Anderson writes:
"Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> writes:
Huh? Postscript an "obscure printer code"?
I now work from a paperless office and find postscript an "obscure printer code". It has taken an annoying amount of hacking to view this postscript file on my PC.
Printer code, yes. Obscure, no. Perry
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