In re Phil Karn's comment that Stuart Baker was an asshole. Perhaps he was just being one for pay? (see below): Newsgroups: alt.wired From: brian@tired.wired.com (Brian Behlendorf) Finally, the article by Baker was almost word-for-word the same pitch he had given at CFP and other places he's had the opportunity to speak. I wonder if his recent resignation from the NSA has anything to do with this... -russ <nelson@crynwr.com> ftp.msen.com:pub/vendor/crynwr/crynwr.wav Crynwr Software | Crynwr Software sells packet driver support | ask4 PGP key 11 Grant St. | +1 315 268 1925 (9201 FAX) | Quakers do it in the light Potsdam, NY 13676 | LPF member - ask me about the harm software patents do.