if nothing else, the availability of 56kbps on an analog line might get the telcos to bring the isdn prices down to some reasonable level, which at the moment, it is not, at least not in nyc. -paul

From cypherpunks-errors@toad.com Tue Sep 17 18:21:03 1996 From: Adamsc@io-online.com (Adamsc) To: "Bill Stewart" <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>, "cypherpunks@toad.com" <cypherpunks@toad.com> Cc: "Asgaard" <asgaard@Cor.sos.sll.se>, "Enzo Michelangeli" <enzo@ima.com> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 96 12:22:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Chris Adams" <adamsc@io-online.com> Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Chris Adams's Registered PMMail 1.52 For OS/2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="us-ascii"> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 56 kbps modems Sender: owner-cypherpunks@toad.com Content-Length: 1107

On Sun, 15 Sep 1996 01:31:19 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote:

...

and still get the original 56kbps back out. But if they can, well, yee-hah, ISDN is nearly dead :-) (Not totally dead; the signalling is still useful for some applications, the convenience of two channels on one wire pair is nice, and the fact that people can get 56kbps without Also, can't you add ISDN b-channels ? (I.e. get another 64kps channel) the phone company's help will pressure them into offering ISDN for a lower price in areas where the Phone Company's idea of "all the market will bear" is substantially higher than voice pricing.)

ISDN is more elegant; this sounds like a 'kludge' of sorts. OTOH, we've all seen how well a cheap kludge can do, right?

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