Re: [NOISE]CIA Contra Crack and LA Gangs (fwd)

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: cypherpunks@toad.com Date: Tue Aug 20 23:34:46 1996 OK, Rich cites a loon, but the fact is that Southern Air Transport right here in Miami was in there early in the contraarms-coke trade. You don't make the real money in any transport business unless you can have full loads both ways. Also, the skills needed to land an overloaded airplane on an unimproved strip are different than those held by typical pilots, even very good, carrier-rated military pilots. Drugsmugglers had 'em, nobody else did, the CIA needed pilots with the skills to have their filthy little war. You can search the "major papers" libraries of West & Lexis for: "mena /p cocaine" and find all kinds of stuff. You can look into the case of John Hall's ranch in Costa Rica and find all kinds of stuff, too. The best experiment I've run across is to ask anyone (especially anyone under 30, for some reason) the following: "Do you think those planes came back empty?" When I do this, _I_ don't have to say the word "cocaine," they say it for me. Every time. It is a major, bipartisan, Watergate-style but bigger scandal, and the strange bedfellows in the media who were doing a halfway decent job of covering it [The Wall Street Journal and "High Times" magazine(!)] have fallen strangely silent on the subject as the election approaches. Hmmmmm. JMR Regards, Jim Ray -- DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy "'Filegate' is starting to make _Ed_ _Meese_ look ethical." -- me Defeat the Duopoly! Vote "NOTA," not Slick/Dull in November. Harry Browne for President. Jo Jorgensen for Vice-president. http://www.HarryBrowne96.org/ ___________________________________________________________________ PGP id.E9BD6D35 51 5D A2 C3 92 2C 56 BE 53 2D 9C A1 B3 50 C9 C8 <mailto:liberty@gate.net> http://www.shopmiami.com/prs/jimray Coming soon, the "Pennies For Perot" page. Keep billionaires off welfare! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMhqD221lp8bpvW01AQF1SwP+JOEoKPgIeFD5EEMMj+psfRaAZHoA+yzC ntVGjl22ThuqwyUJbbhmNEEP2+/mcGd4D1AWvs2Q0yFwWRyQybGGlnTyXtNNVY8s rY4pHCtkUftOxD9oxpB7FSaN2giZzYohbd3bduet1kO6DoXRRHxFq8F/4rbAZbA/ WnRbDSfblUQ= =WDGI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Jim Ray wrote:
OK, Rich cites a loon, but the fact is that Southern Air Transport right here in Miami was in there early in the contraarms-coke trade.
Oh, I don't think it's impossible or even unlikely that at least some of the groups lumped together as "contras" were involved in drug smuggling, and I think it's reasonable to have different views regarding how much money was involved and who knew what when (my view is very little, and medium). What I object to are conspiracy theories along the lines of: 1. The Reagan Administration used the Contras to smuggle crack to the US in a deliberate attempt at genocide against Black people. (I heard this a lot, though seldom in so many words, on KPFK in the mid-80's; the SJ Merc series certainly has this as a subtext.) 2. Clinton was a CIA agent involved in the Contra drug-smuggling CaBaL. He was involved in anti-war protests only as a CIA informant. (This is the suggestion of the Morris book.) 3. Anything involving the Kennedy assassination, Donna Rice, or Elvis.
It is a major, bipartisan, Watergate-style but bigger scandal, and the strange bedfellows in the media who were doing a halfway decent job of covering it [The Wall Street Journal and "High Times" magazine(!)] have fallen strangely silent on the subject as the election approaches. Hmmmmm.
4. Anything where vague unsupported asserions are thrown out, followed by a Hmmmmm (sorry). -rich
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