Re: Codebreakers on the shelves!
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Warning: The book is $65.00 hardbound! (It is also *NOT* a small book. It is large. About 2000 pages by my guess. 1181 actually, not including the table of contents and preface.
It's available in swiss bookstores for $49. I'm about to get one :) - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp@rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html iQEVAwUBMq0qjRFhy5sz+bTpAQER8Af8DviUdSvXhR1Ue7mMJY5/RndZjrTTEdU3 aMEkm7+Xly4ChN62CvKfiBwPjU/eYaEWPiC7YTYGJxe1tSnUoA4K0SHShPAmGI0M vj0/YlaST2/eSwm0m9bu9pcQLEGqX0w/ZsVHPliqTfjcA2k4c6feQg0ku0Ddfija x5y3MfkKoSGohbF96LQ6+KTJkKJuxnHZnRYPFUiXZCS5+CQHqK1I9VAGzeyF+7th Wj0vNif7oUBWH7Qssib380FQj5GtVN0IH/Z/vdcFBrxlXMPRqHWDVmPuIB2BTd2p 6aF4ioF4IUPKTydxJ4ZIVIyh9mV3QHQeJE1hbBb4AoDpxBp0Mrn7Cg== =Ek6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 10:17 AM +0100 12/10/96, Remo Pini wrote:
It's available in swiss bookstores for $49. I'm about to get one :)
I took a look at it a few days ago, and am disappointed. As near as I can tell, from the comments by Kahn and from looking at it, the new edition is _exactly_ the same as the 1967 edition, with the exception of one additional chapter. The last chapter covers the Enigma story in detail. However, the public key cryptography revolution is covered in about two or three pages (or at least this is my recollection). Brief mention is made of Diffie, Hellman, etc., but nothing surprising or new. So, it seems a better deal is to get one of the many used copies of the original, for $20 or less, and then read any of the many good articles on modern cryptography. I'm hoping the new edition of Bamford is handled better. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
I've been looking for a used copy for over a year so I was happy to find the new edition! I *was* disappointed by the last chapter, althouh I know that historians hate to make early judgements about which current events are important.
In message <v03007806aed2ec6f864a@[207.167.93.63]>, "Timothy C. May" writes:
As near as I can tell, from the comments by Kahn and from looking at it, the new edition is _exactly_ the same as the 1967 edition, with the exception of one additional chapter. The last chapter covers the Enigma story in detail.
Is it based on the abridged or unabridged edition?
I'm hoping the new edition of Bamford is handled better.
Any news as to a possible release date for that book? Derek
The events occuring after the finish of the original codebreakers (beginning the seventies, and including public key, Clipper ,etc) and covered lightly in the rewrite will be at the center of my book CRYPTO, which I am still finishing. Meanwhile, the re-release of Codebreakers is a firm reminder of Kahn's awesomeness. Steven On Tue, 10 Dec 1996, Derek Bell wrote:
In message <v03007806aed2ec6f864a@[207.167.93.63]>, "Timothy C. May" writes:
As near as I can tell, from the comments by Kahn and from looking at it, the new edition is _exactly_ the same as the 1967 edition, with the exception of one additional chapter. The last chapter covers the Enigma story in detail.
Is it based on the abridged or unabridged edition?
I'm hoping the new edition of Bamford is handled better.
Any news as to a possible release date for that book?
Derek
"Timothy C. May" <tcmay@got.net> writes:
As near as I can tell, from the comments by Kahn and from looking at it, the new edition is _exactly_ the same as the 1967 edition, with the exception of one additional chapter. The last chapter covers the Enigma story in detail.
However, the public key cryptography revolution is covered in about two or three pages (or at least this is my recollection). Brief mention is made of Diffie, Hellman, etc., but nothing surprising or new.
The "cypher punks" mailing list isn't even mentioned, whines Timmy. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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