Re: Can't block caller ID in Massachusetts?

At 19:37 7/15/96, Alan Horowitz wrote: [...]
It's especially annoying when they've got an in-state or other non-nation-wide 800 number, or when you're calling from outside the US, especially when they're a business you'd like to be able to reach from anywhere, any time, like the travel agent your office uses
Your straining my credulity to claim that you can't get ahold of the regular phone number of them. Come on, are you 7 years old?
How do you get a hold of the phone number if you don't know the location of the company, they aren't on the net, and don't have the US phone numbers CD-ROM handy? I am 33 and have yet to figure this one out... -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

At 12:03 AM -0700 on 7/16/96, Lucky Green quoted/wrote:
Your straining my credulity to claim that you can't get ahold of the regular phone number of them. Come on, are you 7 years old?
How do you get a hold of the phone number if you don't know the location of the company, they aren't on the net, and don't have the US phone numbers CD-ROM handy? I am 33 and have yet to figure this one out...
Try getting anything done from outside the country, where WATS lines need not apply, thank you, even if you _do_ have your CDRs with you. The amount of effort it takes to get around those %#$*ing 800 numbers from outside the US is a nontrivial component in US companies losing business to foreign competitors, imo. ObCrypto: non-net communications channels will necessarily play a big part in any systematic effort among the G7+ to establish a transnational GAK regime, and prickly details like disparities/imbalances in phone systems will wreak havoc on a practical level. In fact, the politico-economic dynamics that distort international telecom arrangements will probably go a long way toward hobbling the "widening horizons of police cooperation" the TLAs are aiming at. Then again, maybe the only thing worse than international GAK might be an incompetently bureaucratized international GAK system. Ted

On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Lucky Green wrote:
How do you get a hold of the phone number if you don't know the location of the company, they aren't on the net, and don't have the US phone numbers CD-ROM handy? I am 33 and have yet to figure this one out...
Look in a trade directory? Call the advertising manager of the publication that ran the ad? Call the office of the relevant trade association? Gosh, are these radical concepts for you? Am I to understand that there has arisen a generation of cypherpunks which can't sniff out any information which a Net Search Robot doesn't return? Go back to your couch, potato.

On Tue, 16 Jul 1996, Lucky Green wrote:
How do you get a hold of the phone number if you don't know the location of the company, they aren't on the net, and don't have the US phone numbers CD-ROM handy? I am 33 and have yet to figure this one out...
For most companies you can call the library's research section. As long as you don't have a mean librarian they will usually try to help. Unlisted ones are another story though (see my previous post) --Millie
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Alan Horowitz
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