Re: denial of service and government rights
At 09:25 PM 11/30/96 -0500, Tired.Fighter@dhp.com wrote:
On 30 Nov 96 at 13:10, Black Unicorn wrote:
On Fri, 29 Nov 1996, Greg Broiles wrote:
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I don't see any reason why this wouldn't be true for a computer. Fed.Rul.Crim.Pro. 41(b)(1) allows the seizure (but seizure is not forfeiture) of "property that constitutes evidence of the commission of a criminal offense".
It is true of computers. Take the case of Ripco (the Chicago BBS raided in the SunDevil raids back when).
I don't think "Dr. Ripco" has yet gotten his equipment back. I don't know for sure, but what I do know is that 5 years after the raid, he still had certainly not gotten anything back.
Unicorn has a long history of reciting government abuses, but then failing to provide any sort of answer to them. My solution (AP: "Assassination Politics") would make such abuse fatal. Jim Bell jimbell@pacifier.com
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