an interesting commercial product might be software to do blaze's trick....

Of course, the problem with this new nifty way to foil Clipper, is that most of the Clipper implementations are in hardware, ie the LEAF interactions and such are transparent to us mere mortals, and we can't modify them via software. Unless I'm missing something, it's going to take some hardware hacking to implement the Honorable Dr. Blaze's fix for Clipper. [ 'Scuse me, I'm going to go dust off my soldering iron. ;) ] -- Michael Brandt Handler <grendel@netaxs.com> Philadelphia, PA, USA PGP v2.6 public key via server / finger / mail "I am iron, I am steel, nobody can touch me when I'm on the wheel" -- Curve