Hi, To address Tim's question about bolt-actions. As far as I know the Marine sniper still uses the Remington 7.62 bolt-action as his arm of choice. The beauty of the H&K blow-back mechanism is that it is very accurate at long range compared to other gas operated mechanism. However, in the situation we are discussion - taking on an assault team with snipers, aka anti-sniping, this level of accuracy is irrelevant. The goal is to stop the assault. To this end single shot accuracy is irrelevant. The reason is that we are not trying to hit a 16 in.^2 piece of brain pan and *not* hit the hostage in front. What we *are* trying to do is locate and eliminate specific targets and any ancillary hits to personnel on that end are a *good* thing. To that end I still like the H&K's because they have the 3-shot selector. My goal would be to set my IIS to show hot targets as black, with the black threshold about 90F. I would then pop off a 3-shot group into anything that looked the least bit like a person. Think of it as a .308 mini-shotgun at 600 yds. Under those conditions a 6-12 in. spread *is* a good thing. With this in mind, you would want to wear nomex to reduce your heat signature, a gillie suit for reduced visual targeting, and some sort of cool suit (from your local auto performance shop) with a modified and remote dissipator to reduce your heat signature so that *their* scopes don't show you as black. If you're in your house a good place to put the dissipator would be in the bathtub or sink. You might also want to cool-suit the gun as well. If you're in the field the dissipator should go behind and below your level of site, it's probably a good thing to cover it with dirt or debris as well. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make | | violent revolution inevitable. | | | | John F. Kennedy | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage@ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|