Re: Canada Imprisons People For Human Rights Activity
At 7:33 PM 8/21/96, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
jbugden@smtplink.alis.ca wrote:
Nota: Quebec recently held a referendum on seperation from Canada.=20 Just talk about secession of a state in the U.S., and you'll quickly see wh= ich country makes political ideas illegal.
OK, so what would happen if I organized a party with the proclaimed goal of secession of Oklahoma from the United States?
- Igor.
Almost certainly nothing. I believe there is an active secessionist movement in Alaska, and nothing has happened to them. (This does not mean they would ever be allowed to succeed in seceeding, of course.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
Senile tcmay@got.net (Timothy C. May) rants:
I believe there is an active secessionist movement in Alaska, and nothing has happened to them.
(This does not mean they would ever be allowed to succeed in seceeding, of course.)
Alaska rightfully belongs to Russia, as do California and Hawaii. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
Alaska rightfully belongs to Russia
The Aleuts still study Russian in their schools and use it in Church. Mr Zhieranovsky (spelling) who recently pointed that out during the run-up to the election campaign, also mentioned his prelimiary plan to reverse the net population loss of ethnic Russians: He'd father a child in every province. The dude has got my vote.
At 8:18 PM -0400 8/21/96, Timothy C. May wrote:
Almost certainly nothing. I believe there is an active secessionist movement in Alaska, and nothing has happened to them.
Depends on what you call "active". Say, five? ten? years ago, the Alaska Independence Party (all of about 12 people at the time) got hijacked by Wally Hickell in his second run for the Alaska Governor's office. He had to do it that way, because he had pissed off the Republican party regulars. And it worked. The hijacking, I mean. He actually got elected. For his one (1) remaining legal term. (Remember Wally? Hotel Owner. Former Alaska Governor in the late 1960's. He was Nixon's Interior Secretary. For a while, anyway. A few bricks shy of a load, Wally was, and that's from someone who actually met him.) The liberal jokesters called AIP "Rent-A-Party" after that. Their founder and patron saint, Joe Vogler, died under mysterious circumstances a couple of years ago. Turns out he was murdered by a follower. (Other people say it was Donna Rice operating under orders from George Bush. ;-).) Joe was a quite few bricks shy, himself. However, I expect my old man probably would have flown up from retirement in New Mexico to old Joe's funeral, if Pop was alive to do it, of course. Alaska attracts people like Joe and Wally and my old man. (No stranger to bricklessness, himself, Pop was a founder of the El Paso John Birch Society chapter. He dragged us all up to Anchorage on a whim to build a whole bunch of 12-plexes after I finished 6th grade. Just before the pipline started. Then retired on it all. OK, scratch the "bricklessness" bit...) Old Joe used to tool around on his homestead in an old bulldozer, randomly plowing under the spruce trees and filling in the muskeg "wetlands", just to have fun with the press and give the tree-huggers apoplexy. Wanted to create some kind of libertarian utopia up in in Alaska, where if you wanted to exterminate all the biomass on your property one sunny summer afternoon, you were welcome to, as long as you had clear title. My kind of guy. :-). AIP got all of 2% in the last election, I think. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi. So, they were "active" (past tense) and I guess you could say something "happened" to them, too... Cheers, Bob Hettinga (Just some more pipline trash...) ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah@shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "'Bart Bucks' are not legal tender." -- Punishment, 100 times on a chalkboard, for Bart Simpson The e$ Home Page: http://www.vmeng.com/rah/
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