-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <pgpmoose.199602010813.60849@paganini.sydney.sterling.com>, Greg Rose <Greg_Rose@sydney.sterling.com> wrote:

A number of people have written words to the effect of: First Virtual, you lost a lot of ground with me. (sounds like others feel the same way, too).

I disagree. I think there is a big difference between "knowing theoretically that X, Y and Z are possible" and "look, I have a program that does X, Y and Z in a certain order, and very fast, and surprisingly successfully, and this has major implications for the banking community". [...] I think most of the problem here is that we heard about it in media words first, and in a reasoned argument second. That's life.

Ok. Fair enough. Good points. Personally, what I found most distasteful about FV's post was their conclusions, not their experimental procedure. I agree that their keyboard-sniffer lends more evidence to the well-known argument that, to make good use of crypto, you need secure endpoint machines. I disagree when FV concludes that this makes crypto useless. Instead, I'd contend we just need to work to secure our endpoints better; then we can do all sorts of neat stuff with crypto. I found their conclusions to be academically displeasing. But I guess that's what happens when you're trying to sell a product... - -- Dave Wagner - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMQ/lHSoZzwIn1bdtAQG3bQF6AnSQY/3Hy6ha35vI5YrbyF8w7Xq/IcN9 IIwNqUKmrqlugKuduk0A9VqDG9Zi0Ksm =7awQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----