From: "Perry E. Metzger" There is this widespread and wholely misplaced affection for "cypherpunks". We aren't a company or an organization. This is a mailing list, and occassionally a seminar series in places like NoCal. It isn't a "group". .............................................. And you of all the cpunks, Perry, are the most affectionately considered. :>) Actually, those who want to become official spokewheels should consider that the cypherpunk agenda is to promote anarchic (i.e. individualistic, self-responsible) action. That is, that the individual who chooses to act in a 'cypherpunkish' mode does so at their own risk by their own motivation by their own decision and their own discretion. Not everyone on the list subscribes to this ideal of complete independence; furthermore, for anarchist types to identify with a "group" would be inconsistent with the philosophical attitude of the "members", who come-&-go as they please. However, it would be an amazing event to see VZ Nuri-logical (Cypherpunk Extraordinaire) on TV, saying something like, "Yes, I fully and completely subscribe to the Cypherpunk agenda: black markets, anarchy, overthrow of governments. National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway." <g> (It would be a *cold* day in Hell!) .. Blanc