Re: Censor John Gilmore -- EFF is a disgrace!
[Multiple CC's trimmed, I don't think anyone at msn.com cares...]
#From Phrack 49, file p49-09 published this month: ... File 09 of 16 by Dr.Dimitri Vulis (KOTM) A Content-Blind Cancelbot for Usenet (CBCB) ... And what follows, is Dr. Dimitri, defender of freedom of expression, champion of the anti-censors on the net, posting code to the world to engage in exactly those activities that everyone has been ranting about as being so utterly "horrifying (forged cancellations etc)" as it were.
You call yourself on cypherpunks, and you blithely assume that a Phrack author actually signs his real name? Either I thought you guys were *real* hackers and you aren't, or this is a very funny troll. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet "Better to be safe than to be sorry" is a remark of value only when these are the actual alternatives.
Dave Hayes wrote;
You call yourself on cypherpunks, and you blithely assume that a Phrack author actually signs his real name?
Either I thought you guys were *real* hackers and you aren't, or this is a very funny troll.
To quote the editors of phrack on this: "Hey, he submitted it and we published it". If Dimitri wants to deny submission it's up to him. Plenty of people regularly publish stuff in Phrack using either their real names, or aliases that are so well connected with their real names as to be inseperable. Cypherpunks are not hackers, don't confuse the two. Tim
Dave Hayes <dave@kachina.jetcafe.org> writes:
#From Phrack 49, file p49-09 published this month: ... File 09 of 16 by Dr.Dimitri Vulis (KOTM) A Content-Blind Cancelbot for Usenet (CBCB) ... And what follows, is Dr. Dimitri, defender of freedom of expression, champion of the anti-censors on the net, posting code to the world to engage in exactly those activities that everyone has been ranting about as being so utterly "horrifying (forged cancellations etc)" as it were.
No. Forging cancels is as a harmless prank. Deleting Usenet articles from news spool based on cancels is a sign of a badly misconfigured server, and a newasadmin not doing his job.
You call yourself on cypherpunks, and you blithely assume that a Phrack author actually signs his real name?
Either I thought you guys were *real* hackers and you aren't, or this is a very funny troll.
Definitely, the plug-pulling assholes on cypherpunks mailing list don't qualify as hackers. They can't even write code! Blah blah blah security through obscurity blah blah blah only the Usenet Cabal has cancelbots blah blah blah only Usenet Cabal knows how to forge cancels blah blah blah netwide acceptance of unauthenticated cancels is crucial to fighting spam blah blah blah. See Tim Skirvin's Cancel FAQ. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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