anybody have any opinions on SKIP (Sun's IP level encryption). How does it compare for encrypting between machines to something like ssh? (Obviously ssh is more portable, other than that) Doug
I just recieved an electronic junkmail! not only that but it was racist (and/or republican) in content. <root@goshawk.cserv.uidaho.edu>:
Syed Yusuf wrote...
how did this get into my mailbox and is there anything I can do to keep stuff like this out?
apparently someone sent this message to a lot of people -- others have reported getting it too.
there is _nothing_ you can do to keep unwanted mail out of your mailbox,
^^^^^^^^^!!!! Nothing? NOTHING?????? Cypher punks to the rescue? my privacy has been violated anyone got any ideas besides just putting each individual into my kill file? -- Syed Yusuf <yusuf921@uidaho.edu> | http://www.uidaho.edu/~yusuf921 Keep me away from Wisdom that does not Cry, Philosophy that does not Laugh, and Greatness that does not bow before Children --Kalil Gibran
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 16:54:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Syed Yusuf <yusuf921@uidaho.edu> I just recieved an electronic junkmail! . . . Cypher punks to the rescue? my privacy has been violated anyone got any ideas besides just putting each individual into my kill file? Well, it's not a perfect solution and it might not have done anything in this particular case, however the amount of electronic junk mail has dropped close to zero osince I added ``Please do not send electronic junk mail!'' to my signature. Rick -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMG1o25NR+/jb2ZlNAQE5RwP/fPlJnpSCqV7YoA2vi8DAwW6m7bzNwmG7 ZH5mciCIvlrdL1Ua0ERVsiqmcXDE5lvU7aYigexBzedUX+q8E67St87gKEuXLkNa tGNdOlDHb+JwUVfyUWXrHTHVkCgK//MIdToEypkLLv5stG0mHwwh2lf/SZgEPisk YZJs/btH/TU= =FO6+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Rick Busdiecker Please do not send electronic junk mail! net: rfb@lehman.com or rfb@cmu.edu PGP Public Key: 0xDBD9994D www: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/rfb/http/home.html send mail, subject "send index" for mailbot info, "send pgp key" gets my key A `hacker' is one who writes code. Breaking into systems is `cracking'.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Syed Yusuf <yusuf921@uidaho.edu> and cypherpunks@toad.com S.Y. wrote:
I just recieved an electronic junkmail! ... <root@goshawk.cserv.uidaho.edu>: ...
there is _nothing_ you can do to keep unwanted mail out of your mailbox, ^^^^^^^^^!!!! Nothing? NOTHING?????? ...
You could only accept signed e-mail. From a suitably defined set of signators, of course. If you write a script to do that for you, it would be useful to others as well: parents could set it up for their innocent children to guard them against all them bad guys on the net of which there are exactly 98.3527% (no, that's not from [Rimm 95], I made it up). The other thing would be that you would thereby force all your correspondents to use PGP, which can't be such a bad thing, can it. Yes, no, maybe? Jiri - -- If you want an answer, please mail to <jirib@cs.monash.edu.au>. On sweeney, I may delete without reading! PGP 463A14D5 (but it's at home so it'll take a day or two) PGP EF0607F9 (but it's at uni so don't rely on it too much) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAwUBMGzmoSxV6mvvBgf5AQFRXQQAzP2Zv6reuIVyq9TdofXq5wJCz5aLdXou yexGtkXSo8HKcHEmtF1DpcTZuzNs0zuXD92G3VAI+nCncAzfKKsLziSZ5hd93Dnm huTC+wLm6XrnrjwS56h8F843bBE2jrEL1rnBN9UhEUD9VOyA1ncj7rb8Nap9Z0/V 885XUrREQTM= =pOSV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
anybody have any opinions on SKIP (Sun's IP level encryption). How does it compare for encrypting between machines to something like ssh? (Obviously ssh is more portable, other than that)
SKIP and ssh perform very different operations. SKIP is an IP-level encryption engine (ala IP-SEC), whereas ssh is an application-level encryption engine. You can run ssh on top of SKIP. And using SKIP I can encrypt every single IP packet leaving my machine; you can't do that with ssh. Does this help? -derek
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Syed Yusuf