Remailers and ecash
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- An anonymous brother wrote:
Given: We want more (reliable) remailers But someone has to pay for them
Conjecture: New remailers can be financed by charging the users a fee per message to use the remailers.
If a remailer charges a fee, the number of users will be reduced to those who are willing to pay the fee.
When the number of users is reduced, the potential for traffic analysis is increased, which reduces the value of the remailer.
If the value of the remailer is reduced, it will not be worth the cost to many users, and those users will seek a less expensive, higher traffic remailer.
Thus, the commercial remailer is forced to lower its prices until it is unprofitable.
Conclusion: Pay-per-message commecial remailers are not economically viable.
You know how the remailer operators do all their work now for free because they believe in it? And how all this software has been written and given away because people believe in it? Maybe some other people will help pay for the maintenance of the remailers because they believe it is the right thing to do. Especially since it need not be forever. And, I have to believe that out of the millions of well heeled Internet users, there are enough privacy oriented people to pay for a small remailer network, at the very least. We just have to get the ball rolling, that's all.
- Pay a flat fee per month for remailer access
This is isormorphic to using ecash if you want to keep the messages of each user disassociated from each other.
- Everyone a remailer. Remailers only accept messages from other remailers. To use remailers you must run a remailer.
I don't grow my own wheat, grind it up, and then make my own bread. I also prefer not to run a remailer.
- Pay for access to an anonymous message pool
Interesting!
- Sell cpu cycles in exchange for remailer access
If we use ecash, you can sell anything in exchange for remailer access. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNDP8VpaWtjSmRH/5AQEMNgf9FY0zq4+p1R6F4GPIvLCqQQsXJ9TeeNSX v8sH99yUpYm+FmJuxwoGzel0Q0VRaR6NakuTx/Q1tKzSA4H2cnslEixyft9c0CsE 5dWEXe7694x/el4xXJcoX3+XNrKjo8qAERe9jcttPUtEgwT+2+JnfcMOudX7UZd6 LL8OvpD9CJrwQuJIeaNgbftwuVukuLkCRWJ1wrsJAs37Y9w9GqA+RTlqNXbElyi6 ryC17sysWOaFVryjLEHYXL9r60Ct9ZHp1hQoP0O1yCyKa5BMrTsVfXWOXuU/qSDe w0cfkcZ6lI8EmZObcOLr3sRdblq7nojoBctypSkILwEtEqgbpW0HXg== =TgmT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Monty Cantsin wrote:
- Everyone a remailer. Remailers only accept messages from other remailers. To use remailers you must run a remailer.
I don't grow my own wheat, grind it up, and then make my own bread. I also prefer not to run a remailer.
You don't have to. You pay someone to bake your bread for you, and you can pay someone to run your remailer for you. This idea has been around since remailers began. The basic premise is that a group of remailers are set up which only accept mail from other remailers. A pinging system can be set up to verify that all the remailers are operating correctly. The catch is that in practice each remailer is only required to accept mail from other remailers, but can actually accept mail from anybody the operator wants to. So if you don't want to run a remailer, just pay someone to run a remailer on your behalf, and then you can send anonymous messages through that person's site. Thus forwarding within the remailer network is free, but it costs money to insert new messages. This scheme is a little more flexible than attaching ecash to each message because you can arrange any type of fee schedule you like, such as a flat rate per month. There's also the reverse of this, where remailers accept from anyone, but only send to other remailers. Thus you have to pay to get your messages out of the remailer network. This is more restrictive because the payment must be anonymous.
- Pay for access to an anonymous message pool
Interesting!
Sign up with an ISP that offers alt.anonymous.messages. This one is a no-brainer. (and profitable for the ISP) This results in a system where sending messages is essentially free (since free remailers exist) but it costs money to receive them. So far it seems to be successful, at least for those who pay a flat fee for usenet access.
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