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----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 cypherpunks.com... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by pig.die.com (5.65/1.35) id AA01142; Sun, 28 Apr 96 19:24:26 -0400 Message-Id: <9604282324.AA01142@pig.die.com> Subject: Re: Cell Kill 2 To: asgaard@sos.sll.se (Asgaard) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 19:24:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dave Emery" <die@pig.die.com> Cc: cypherpunks.com Reply-To: die@die.com In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.91.960428210130.10419A-100000@cor.sos.sll.se> from "Asgaard" at Apr 28, 96 11:44:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24alpha3] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1237 Asgaard writes >
enough for this application of force. It makes more sense if he was using a direct (mobile) phone-satellite device, assuming such devices are emitting a stronger signal that could easily be targeted by AWAC type technology, or even satellites (that they are communicating with in the first place).
Much the most likely satellite phone is the widely used INMARSAT A or C types which radiate continuous narrow band (nbfm or QPSK) uplinks in L band (around 1636 mhz) at considerable power (multiple tens of watts) via antennas with large sidelobes (the fact that the antennas are small and portable on most satellite terminals mean that they radiate lots of energy in various directions other than the satellite because of the limitations of the physical optics involved at such a long wavelength). This would be a sitting duck for an anti-radiation missle. The US has had such missle's since the Vietnam era for knocking out radar sites, one can presume the USSR developed such weapons as well. Why the Russians did not use this technology earlier remains puzzling ... and why Dudeyev used a satellite phone which made him a sitting duck is even less clear. Dave Emery die@die.com
Why the Russians did not use this technology earlier remains puzzling ... and why Dudeyev used a satellite phone which made him a sitting duck is even less clear.
Dave Emery die@die.com
But there has been an easy defense against such for decades. You run ordinary phone wire from the transmitter + antenna X meters back to the bunker or whatever. Then you talk from there. X varies as afunction of the expected incoming. I bought some surplus 1950's era field telephones with this option built it -- they had a 150v B-battery [NOW i'm dating myself] that was dropped across the pair when you squeezed the handset Push-to-Talk. At the far end, a relay closed & turned on the transmitter. -- A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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