Toilet plungers and sodomy: Why we should trust police blindly
<B>By TOM HAYS<P> <B>Associated Press Writer<P> NEW YORK (AP) - A police officer turned himself over to investigators after being accused of using a toilet plunger to sodomize a Haitian immigrant who was arrested in a scuffle outside a nightclub. Justin Volpe, 25, one of two officers that Abner Louima identified as his attackers, surrendered to the police department's internal affairs division Wednesday night. Louima was critically injured in the Saturday beating. Deputy Inspector Michael Collins said Volpe would be charged with aggravated sexual abuse and first-degree assault. Collins also said disorderly conduct charges against Louima were being dropped. And the mayor said the precinct was undergoing a staff shakeup. Citing an unidentified high-ranking official familiar with the investigation, the Daily News reported today that Louima told investigators Volpe sodomized him. Louima has said an officer shoved a toilet plunger into his rectum, and then into his mouth. "They said, "Take this, nigger,' and stuck the stick in my rear end," Louima, 30, said in a hospital interview. [...]
Louima has said an officer shoved a toilet plunger into his rectum, and then into his mouth. "They said, "Take this, nigger,' and stuck the stick in my rear end," Louima, 30, said in a hospital interview.
Gee, where's Tim McVeigh when you really need him? I wonder if they have daycare centers at police headquarters. Broken eggs, etc... -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch@zipcon.com $ via Finger $ {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Mike Duvos wrote:
Gee, where's Tim McVeigh when you really need him? I wonder if they have daycare centers at police headquarters.
Broken eggs, etc...
This is really Guiliani's fault for hiring so many damn cops. NYC now has so many cops that if you walk down the street in most neighborhoods for more than 5 minutes you'll see at least one cop car. In their rush to hire cops, they also hired scum as cops. Who knows how many such incidents go unreported or are covered up. :( Damned police state if I ever saw one. As for stopping crime, they ain't doing shit. They're picking on small things like parking tix and such, but as for going after mobsters and drug dealers, the piggies are snarfing donuts. All I've ever see them do is ticket cars and tow them away. =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================
Ray Arachelian <sunder@brainlink.com> writes:
This is really Guiliani's fault for hiring so many damn cops. NYC now has so many cops that if you walk down the street in most neighborhoods for more than 5 minutes you'll see at least one cop car. In their rush to hire cops, they also hired scum as cops. Who knows how many such incidents go unreported or are covered up. :( Damned police state if I ever saw one.
As for stopping crime, they ain't doing shit. They're picking on small things like parking tix and such, but as for going after mobsters and drug dealers, the piggies are snarfing donuts. All I've ever see them do is ticket cars and tow them away.
Can you blame them? They have a quote for writing parking tickets and will get in trouble for not writing enough; while they don't have a quota e.g. for writing tickets to the folks who run red lights, and can get shot at if they try to. As for the regrettable incident with the plunger: while it sounds bad out of context, it can be viewed as just desserts for the indignities the while people in New York City have undergone under the Dinkins administration. If the alleged victim (who already gave 3 highly contradictory stories of the events) thinks that this city is so racist, why didn't he stay in his native Haiti? --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
Dr. Vebis writes:
As for the regrettable incident with the plunger: while it sounds bad out of context, it can be viewed as just desserts for the indignities the while people in New York City have undergone under the Dinkins administration. If the alleged victim (who already gave 3 highly contradictory stories of the events) thinks that this city is so racist, why didn't he stay in his native Haiti?
WHAT!? The "alleged victim" describes officers beating him and then shoving a toilet plunger up his rectum and down his throat while yelling "Take that, Nigger!" He has a broken jaw, a punctured rectum, and a torn bladder, a colostomy, and will require multiple surgeries to repair all the damage. The police officers initially covered up for eachother, and the guilty cop was only turned over to internal affairs when the cops realized that they had a situation so serious that they couldn't lie their way out of it. It will be interesting to see whether he is charged with anything serious, what sort of defense he concocts, whether his fellow officers testify against him. In other news, a Texas jury refused to indict a marine who shot an 18 year old goatherder tending his flock near the Mexican border. After the shooting, the marines claimed that the man had fired first, but this excuse seems to be crumbling as the investigation continues. An interesting newsday, as Tim McVeigh is sentenced to death, and quotes from Justice Brandeis about the government teaching its citizen-units by example. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Jackbooted Thugs, Atrocities under Color of Authority, Unbridled Arrogance, and Unmitigated Gall. Surely we should learn well from these examples as our government tells us how it wishes us to treat it. Up against the wall with the lot of them. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch@zipcon.com $ via Finger $ {Free Cypherpunk Political Prisoner Jim Bell}
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
Can you blame them? They have a quote for writing parking tickets and will get in trouble for not writing enough; while they don't have a quota e.g. for writing tickets to the folks who run red lights, and can get shot at if they try to.
Sure I can blame them. If they're unwilling to support the constitution and do what's right and proper by it, they don't belong in the police force, they belong in the congress with all the other political scum sucking bastards.
As for the regrettable incident with the plunger: while it sounds bad out of context, it can be viewed as just desserts for the indignities the while people in New York City have undergone under the Dinkins administration. If the alleged victim (who already gave 3 highly contradictory stories of the events) thinks that this city is so racist, why didn't he stay in his native Haiti?
Probably for the same reason you didn't chose to remain in Russia and came here. :) Whatever crimes he might have been arrested for and allegedly commited don't mask or negate that the police raped him. Pure and simple. Did you mean "white" instead of "while"? I believe the pig^H^H^cop involved was hispanic not white, so your racist comment is out of place, but whatever... IMHO, Dinkins was a weak mayor, probably a puppet to someone else. Just dig up some old news bulletins and speeches of his and you'll see he's very meek and afraid. I doubt he had any control over this city. While under his regime, city hall was constantly surrounded by cops almost daily. I used to work near there and saw it durring lunch. Bomb scares and all that I think... Gee I wonder what he was afraid of? I wasn't around there that much when Guiliani came so I don't know if the blockades remained or not. Perhaps some other knowledgeable punk can answer that.... Still, all he did was battle with the UN and inflict a police state on us which does nothing but put tickets on windshields and steals cars parked on the public streets to sell them for profit, or holds them hostage for you. Obviously the laws of diminish returns apply to hiring cops as well.. at a certain point all the good cops are already hired and all you're left to hire is pure scum. =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================
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