hey all; I setup a mac-crypto mailing list at majordomo@thumper.vmeng.com the ususal: to: majordomo@thumper.vmeng.com subscribe mac-crypto will get you on board. I't purpose is to discuss the specifics of macintosh based cryptography, save the politics for cyhperpunks. my first topic of discussion is the idea of a mac crypto conference, here at apple, cupertino. I wsa thinking of a one day afair, a few sessions, mostly tech, open to the developer public. ------------- Vinnie Moscaritolo Apple DTS Sniper "One Shot..One Kill" http://webstuff.apple.com/~vinnie/ Fingerprint = 4F A3 29 81 50 E4 04 F2 78 25 01 87 6E A2 14 6A --------------