The hardware off-shoot of this list is finally on-line! You can subscribe to the list by sending a subscribe request of the form: SUBSCRIBE cp-hardware <name> to listproc@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu I have decided to call the list 'cp-hardware'. While perhaps this is somewhat more boreing of a name than punk-net, or the like, it is more descriptive of the list as a whole. Thanks to all of the people who sent me mail requesting to be on the list- your're requests are why I've set the list up. However, I decided it will be simpler for people who are interested to send the subscribe request themselves. This should eliminate, or rather minimize errors. So, if you sent me a request previously, you still need to send a request listproc. The intention is that the list will be a forum for discussion of hardware issues related to computer privacy, as well as dicussion, design, and hopefully construction of several projects. If the list gets going sufficiently well, I'll set up an anonymous ftp site for the storage of archive, schematics, and anything else that is related. When you subscribe, you will get a welcome message which describes what I see the list could be. Your feedback is appreciated. A short (very short) informational file can be requested by mailing INFO cp-hardware To listproc@nextsrv.cas.muohio.edu, although the welcome message is I think more descriptive of the list at this point. so, punks, why stop at writing code? Let's build hardware! -john