Re: [STEGO] Secure envelopes
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks@toad.com Date: Tue May 13 16:01:35 1997
On Tue, 13 May 1997, The Spectre wrote:
I suggest that nobody do this, as this will filter out anonymous mail from these remailers. You do, of course, have the right to filter out whomever you want, but there are worthwhile anonymous contributions from these remailers. I personally don't see what the big deal is with these ascii-art messages. 95% of the time, these messages are very easy to spot, and the remaining 5%, it takes two seconds to hit the "delete" key. hmmmm.. Go figure out how many years of your life you'll waste doing that once you calculate how many of these messages arrive each hour, let alone each day. I, personally, have been on this mailing list for a while now, and have never seen *any* worthwhile posts from either of those remailers, or any other for that matter. If you've got something to say, say it. Anything less is cowardice, in one form or another.
Or, if you like, I'll remove my spam filter and you can come hit my delete key for me... - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQENAzM2vJwAAAEH/1uuDgh1udD+DbU9ies8Lst3j7bmlM+m+aN0gVwerfx+uA14 AG6RDZwwCLwCZYxh0/AizW1b25nHs5XDFW7QIVo1/agtbyz3rt7plcp3wi+rXPxo zFPgILegG2k81mHYIYVJ1g9bEExVGsNc7GMthkaOjPL2VYirQPRtAa4ZZc6JuCLH I85xIcwuLppYajUU4WMMf4yz+5w1WtTlHdL9+ec6BHoF+fOhsF/8DMd5nveFl0aM G52t+z6okMw9vFjLbEtj0BbDRsMjRJNM5uFQWzU+nPEaUzVP+MySe/yrjR2P3dZa UKjpG3Er7U4DV7rb8mE20Wet10jJoALjG8yMZrUABRG0HVRoZSBTcGVjdHJlIDxz cGVjdHJlQG5hYy5uZXQ+iQEVAwUQM0qy66AC4xvMjGa1AQGNLAf/QY5SyC/jybOQ asYfNqhPFip0gZwUutOOgPdyrEsXoxFOWJ9OG95dzvNJ3of22zh4RLusUt5NT7lB DFUKiP4aQsNf5XmW+qk/R1nmqyO/XHAAAdIos2SGsYew2d3JatIlFZIQ+vMkEOC0 +oPotz7effhkDKeYl+Qdla9eZ1C47Be2NrA1sH26jKYhCob6VnAK+zAin8ZPEnb0 XEKQTMVdE2ehv2Q8PxygZhDI0L6sM6EgguvDWjJuGN4bIhxh22dAyNRJ7CVQsqwV rj4TtkAuqUb0nyQvD2xUeJcB/O+1LCH7oFBE4EG1qEIl7asVjEURrfej7OwxRrA0 J0Lc5tZToA== =tS4W - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBM3jIoqAC4xvMjGa1AQHYGQf+LnnFnEHTlH+7N1X9gdG+Q+qyp44r1mHu kw6FcENloFaE7oRpaDffaCOlBEAwJEQYnPNr6LOD18rTYQ2ZgruI/sv73KslBDI9 CLRjBRpzPSyF3+59uGusxOdLzHIzKjUSrB0xF5n/C07DnEoDa9DvXz1p+XnuPxf5 ZgXbrPMrac66K+Mz16XyJeI7eUjUEpqgc1s4OJuBpLZkCskncL9lUr9lfoHw8neE g4fjzH4csJ6XWh7z5ZZWN1dK9n8dUe13Er7rTLXT7Y0Md7DlkeyinJqPGd4eoPZ9 z2Rka6QJKBs4JC5cki4Hf9zOnHfJiqc5d30v1A0S+u1paOkoGQd0zQ== =tJQ6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
At 11:57 AM -0800 5/13/97, The Spectre wrote:
hmmmm.. Go figure out how many years of your life you'll waste doing that once you calculate how many of these messages arrive each hour, let alone each day. I, personally, have been on this mailing list for a while now, and have never seen *any* worthwhile posts from either of those remailers, or any other for that matter. If you've got something to say, say it. Anything less is cowardice, in one form or another.
Nonsense. People use remailers for all sorts of reasons. (Speaking for myself, and trying to be careful to not implicate myself in further felonies, I've used the available remailers to post liberated information of various sorts. Go back and check the archives. You'll find that "Dumpster divings" of information from corporate conspirators (a la Cylink, Mykotronx) was posted through anonymous remailers. Who would argue that the cause of liberty would be better served by posting these items under one's own name, where the Corporate State could then file lawsuits, order midnight raids, etc.?) As for the time to delete the Vulis spam, you must be innumerate. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay@got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 13 May 1997, The Spectre wrote:
hmmmm.. Go figure out how many years of your life you'll waste doing that once you calculate how many of these messages arrive each hour, let alone each day.
The time per year it takes for me to delete all these messages is about the same as the amount of time it took me to reply to your previous message plus the amount of time it will now take me to compose this reply. All back of the envelope, of course.
I, personally, have been on this mailing list for a while now, and have never seen *any* worthwhile posts from either of those remailers, or any other for that matter.
I've been on this list for 18 months and have seen plenty of worthwhile posts from remailers. You're entitled to your opinion, but I strongly disagree.
If you've got something to say, say it. Anything less is cowardice, in one form or another.
So you're calling John Jay, James Madison, and Alexander Hamilton cowards (anonymous authors of the Federalist Papers)? Many others have also used anonymity to further the cause of liberty. I doubt your real name is "The Spectre" yet that is the name under which you are posting. Are you calling yourself a coward? Mark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3kCgyzIPc7jvyFpAQHoBQgAnjlZTGB/RVGaBB7D6LbHOv6ykDk61Mky 7NWhC494DAIXvbweSSLc0QA+F8lIRrmmBB5Be1+ACDHAfKN79KQ4gBd7pMwn3rJT ihjXfMYm3JHXA/cLC6/XCbiq5Q7Ft1pGN07oXfC/0vHEOzZv7QcBx7jdZKkWbklU tbURkxDxRFl4DKr5GG4aTH8AifLKP3/YR/O7Lf6Q3Zpkz+B5TmLbkaHRTM0eorJu U/ywMkfWJpYx9C0rgLL3HZu5ZvU8z/d90n55oFFKVVShIYA0pSwukcyb5y5WAr7+ VrlxYoPR6CPsv/xHcyhNA8KVVx1ixrm8NGQbNtg/hCapZbPHQXA6pQ== =5c4k -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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