Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children

First, a disclaimer: I think adults should be allowed to ingest whatever substances they desire, and parents should be allowed to raise their kids without undue interference from the government. Having said that, I think that the major issue with Ritalin is that parents are giving it to their children in significant percentages of the population. Since Ritalin is "medicine" and is prescribed by doctors, it is assumed to be safe. However, I would bet that many parents whose children are on daily doses of Ritalin would not think of drinking coffee or alcohol while pregnant or nursing. It is important to consider that any drug used over a period of time may have lasting (possibly negative) effects, and that these effects are multiplied when the drugs are taken by still-developing children. While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school? Clay *************************************************************************** Clay Olbon II * Clay.Olbon@dynetics.com Systems Engineer * PGP262 public key on web page Dynetics, Inc. * http://www.msen.com/~olbon/olbon.html ***************************************************************** TANSTAAFL

"Clay Olbon II" writes:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?
If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to pay attention, yes. Perry

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 1996 10:59:58 -0400 From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> To: Clay Olbon II <Clay.Olbon@dynetics.com> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
"Clay Olbon II" writes:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school?
If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to pay attention, yes.
Perry
Thats a non-answer. Paying attention and sitting still are two different things. I can't sit still, but I can pay attention (well, in some classes) --Deviant -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMeQsmjAJap8fyDMVAQGreQf8DWOrX4stJXPheWqnnmXIx7eCGiRdwxhS YlOfy1pfakHeKJHdpGZGvsT4ojrXBMMqxeltisAYF1XukJDDwF6681T6/ekL46yd rZe8qzgIsBUbuIJdt1Lw5cbRYK772WHPu8LnZX0T+1Gg+vZ+Bu/TGRRZ+nATpuwH z1uiBH1q8znhD0NFQ/M6i+5gTBZx0Obil2ri6jaP2UAhcetauj6Vv3tvX1Ii6klf EubP8/NqgaZ4Atn1M9mrVODpjlqua3+t1FCy1dxSV+V33cGDZ6glAW3aM6N890ED IPY4rvvgJryjfsYpN92t76KPpQnieVenu4z+di108EqdGABhNGv5eA== =GGWS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a job, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school? If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
"Clay Olbon II" writes: pay attention, yes.
If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. I sure would have been a lot less distracted. Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@crash.suba.com

snow writes:
On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo b, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school? If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
"Clay Olbon II" writes: pay attention, yes.
If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still.
I doubt it. Perry

On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
snow writes:
On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo b, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school? If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
"Clay Olbon II" writes: pay attention, yes. If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. I doubt it.
Let me put that another way. Be much more attentive. Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@crash.suba.com

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 11 Jul 1996, snow wrote:
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 1996 23:19:37 -0500 (CDT) From: snow <snow@smoke.suba.com> To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com> Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com Subject: Re: [RANT] Giving Mind Control Drugs to Children
On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
snow writes:
On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
While it is crucial for an adult to be able to function and maintain a jo b, is it really as important for a kid to be able to sit still in school? If he or she is going to learn anything, it is important to be able to
"Clay Olbon II" writes: pay attention, yes. If they were teaching anything, I bet the kid _would_ sit still. I doubt it.
Let me put that another way. Be much more attentive.
Petro, Christopher C. petro@suba.com <prefered for any non-list stuff> snow@crash.suba.com
Personally, being one of the aformentioned un-attentive students, must agree. If the subject is taught well, and the class is interesting, the student will pay attention. --Deviant -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMeiKhzAJap8fyDMVAQGmHgf+MCSvK2OsUAmMh9I1/5LHtMuNmPuKzco7 ChJQRwCDxKUR/YEgA6t/Mk6ijKTfswF90GKis5CO0a+rESmlTQkX7BYRdWBfcD8A yo7W5BORo2CHgBhwDOtBE3z8WDlu6a94Kfgb1EJF3qE5sqxb9JKlgOfKtXLCL78r bx7Uzplz1EN84guvRC2X1PJxbWXpKQbESeiV/+UbcT0Yhdswc2S2CL7PvQ8fiPJ9 GjEb/JlwWF4L+pLBDnf/XZBAXkmf4+JcIHZkoQZi4Kosvcuo9u3nHmiD09IaCIYV Gux1WDeNnBejp/eTSqQY4d/OzuH2wJ3xudQlBBHeaTQnqaXLLlgdKQ== =sF9Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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The Deviant