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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:50:34 -0600 (CST) From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl@mfn.org> Subject: Re: I must admit. . .
On Thu, 24 Dec 1998, Reeza! finally got to the point of the matter:
<massive snip> :, that does not mean I'm willing to allow one :expansionist dictator to sanction another country and gain control of :enough of the worlds oil supply to impact the well-being of my country.
I believe this is the the only true argument here. The US (and you) are not "pleased" with the fact that the one place on the planet that has the worlds largest oil deposits is not beholden to the USG.
Actualy there are equivalent oil and gas deposits in SE Asia and Antartica. But they doesn't belong to the USG either. Of course the point is valid. Though it almost begs the question of why in such a situation there is not a more powerful search for alternatives. There are actualy very few technologies that care whether oil or gas is used in energy production or some entirely different process. ____________________________________________________________________ What raises the standard of living may well diminish the quality of life. The Club of Rome The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage@ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------
At 10:05 PM 12/24/98 -0600, Jim Choate wrote:
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 19:50:34 -0600 (CST) From: Missouri FreeNet Administration <measl@mfn.org> Subject: Re: I must admit. . .
On Thu, 24 Dec 1998, Reeza! finally got to the point of the matter:
<massive snip> :, that does not mean I'm willing to allow one :expansionist dictator to sanction another country and gain control of :enough of the worlds oil supply to impact the well-being of my country.
I believe this is the the only true argument here. The US (and you) are not "pleased" with the fact that the one place on the planet that has the worlds largest oil deposits is not beholden to the USG.
Actualy there are equivalent oil and gas deposits in SE Asia and Antartica. But they doesn't belong to the USG either.
Of course the point is valid. Though it almost begs the question of why in such a situation there is not a more powerful search for alternatives. There are actualy very few technologies that care whether oil or gas is used in energy production or some entirely different process.
Which point? Yours, or J.A.'s??? I thought the point wasn't about control of that segment of the oil supply, I was voicing my personal opinion there. Rather, the point was about the sanction of a sovereign neighbor nation, and our (The US's) actions in forcing Hussein back as part of a world community effort. Whether our "sticking our noses into it" as J.A. said earlier, was justifiable. I agree we should be pursuing alternative energies with greater diligence, I'd like to see what the petroleum companies have on their shelves and are suppressing. Reeza! ============================================================================ DH Key available upon request. The affairs of Men rarely rely on the dictates of logic, or even common sense. "Yeah, they mostly rely on something below the belt." -- my older sister
Reeza! wrote:
I agree we should be pursuing alternative energies with greater diligence, I'd like to see what the petroleum companies have on their shelves and are suppressing.
I bet there's a lot of shelf space (and mercenary funding) devoted to making profits from Caspian Sea oil. Voluminous oil reserves, land-locked, begging for a drainage shunt into the Black Sea, Mediterranean or Persian Gulf. The Persian Gulf heads the list except that pipelines would traverse enemy territory. Well, well, well... Iraq has interesting possibilities. Demonize the present head of state and his regime, use US military to soften up the resistance, incite opposition movements, oil companies merge to fund the insurgency... drooling over the thought of getting in on the ground floor. Then kick back as oil flow meters spin like slot machines that pay out every spin. We'd be stupid not to play.
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