Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers (fwd)
At 08:27 PM 1/1/96 -0800, you wrote:
Jim Choate:
If you live in the Austin, TX area I will setup a dedicated slip for you at only $100/mo.
in the Portland Oregon area, the price ranges from $234/year to $1750/year for unlimited ppp access. (I have no idea how long the $234/year is going to stay in business. that won't even cover the cost of a phone line.)
It seems to me that phone line costs are turning into a floor price for Internet access, when they shouldn't really be. The main asset telephone companies have, right now, is in RIGHTS OF WAY. Put an ISP in a business park that allows you to run your own dedicated copper pairs, and you've bypassed $25/month/line business phone line charges. At some point, individual urban and suburban blocks could easily be "guerilla re-wired" for ISP access without serious trenching, etc. The phoneco would still be involved, but in a far lower-profit mode, as the supplier of a single T1 to a multi-block area.
It seems to me that phone line costs are turning into a floor price for Internet access, when they shouldn't really be. The main asset telephone companies have, right now, is in RIGHTS OF WAY. Put an ISP in a business park that allows you to run your own dedicated copper pairs, and you've bypassed $25/month/line business phone line charges.
At some point, individual urban and suburban blocks could easily be "guerilla re-wired" for ISP access without serious trenching, etc. The phoneco would still be involved, but in a far lower-profit mode, as the supplier of a single T1 to a multi-block area.
For the "last mile" to the ISP user, wireless could be a better bet. Have antenna, will surf. (Not speaking for Qualcomm, etc.) Peter Monta pmonta@qualcomm.com Qualcomm, Inc./Globalstar
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It seems to me that phone line costs are turning into a floor price for Internet access, when they shouldn't really be. The main asset telephone companies have, right now, is in RIGHTS OF WAY. Put an ISP in a business park that allows you to run your own dedicated copper pairs, and you've bypassed $25/month/line business phone line charges.
At some point, individual urban and suburban blocks could easily be "guerilla re-wired" for ISP access without serious trenching, etc. The phoneco would still be involved, but in a far lower-profit mode, as the supplier of a single T1 to a multi-block area.
For the "last mile" to the ISP user, wireless could be a better bet. Have antenna, will surf.
I can easily visualize mobile and portable systems linking to an ISP, downloading email via encrypted POP/UUCP/whatever, using itinerant 2m or 450 MHz frequencies. A mobile system connects to any ISP, gets a login: prompt, enters "xyz@host.domain", gets thrown into a POP session on host.domain, uploads/downloads, then disconnects. All it would really require is implementing "exec rlogin -l xyz host.domain" into getty (a very simple patch) and suitable crypto protocols... - -- Ed Carp, N7EKG Ed.Carp@linux.org, ecarp@netcom.com 214/993-3935 voicemail/digital pager 800/558-3408 SkyPager Finger ecarp@netcom.com for PGP 2.5 public key an88744@anon.penet.fi "Past the wounds of childhood, past the fallen dreams and the broken families, through the hurt and the loss and the agony only the night ever hears, is a waiting soul. Patient, permanent, abundant, it opens its infinite heart and asks only one thing of you ... 'Remember who it is you really are.'" -- "Losing Your Mind", Karen Alexander and Rick Boyes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMOnlPyS9AwzY9LDxAQHJ2QP7BhISrKa3zgNs7gsGaTdp3JLj39ER6mJ1 NiefPhys5wsKfSSzOeGbVzOTahmFJHofeY3qyhkCjycinLttSYtN7lAhwrskXbdx 8x/DjHBisOaloyEZPjpdSRshGi65ziUNhudEr+NAWdF3izZ/R0M3m6WkN7O7VH2S 8xh+SQWFA44= =P+B0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Ed Carp [khijol SysAdmin] -
jim bell -
Peter Monta