Regarding the recent question of whether the cypherpunks list is being gatewayed to Usenet: 1) So what? I have always assumed that anything distributed to a group of _any_ kind may wind up scattered all over the globe and may turn up in unusual places. If the data is sensitive, encrypt it! 2) [Disclaimer: I know just enough Unix to get in trouble..] From what I understand so far, all it takes is one cypherpunk and some magic mail routing code to bounce cypherpunks list postings anywhere else on the planet. If this cypherpunk bounced the traffic off an anonymous remailer, you would never even be able to tell who was feeding the other system. Unless I'm missing something, there seems to be no defense possible against this activity. 3) I agree with the concern expressed by Tim May that we may be opened up to 'disruptive flaming and puerile argumentation.' The only way to avoid this problem [as far as I can tell] is to limit postings to members of the mailing list. That's a tough one. Let us hope that our coffee shop is not overrun by screaming children... ........................................................................ Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | The person who does not use message encryption pdn@dwroll.dw.att.com | will soon be at the mercy of those who DO... Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.